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Old 6th Aug 2008, 00:23 CEST   #1
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I just played a game vs RNDM orc on TM, i was UD so went dk/ghouls, scouted with aco, saw he was orc, so it completely ruined my game, cus he jsut went mass wind riders and raped me and by the time i had fiends with web, it was too late -.-'

so i was just wondering on your oppinions about this, I absolutely fucking hate playing vs random, because straight away, the random player has a huge advantage over you (he knows your race, you dont know his...)

I also think that rndm shouldnt even be an option in b.net ladder games.
lastly, any tips on what to do vs RNDM when Im UD would be nice =]
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Old 6th Aug 2008, 00:41 CEST   #2
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TM is usually a map where the DK harrasses the enemy while he (the enemy) is creeping hehe. I guess a graveyard is a mustbuild, it doesnt matter vs whom you play. So while teching t2 you should build one and go for some fiends. When orc is t2 u need to delay his bestiaries. Then you can finish playing your fiends/dessi/frostwyrm strat. Shouldnt be so difficult.
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Old 6th Aug 2008, 00:47 CEST   #3
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okay I play usually or always random @ b.net ladder as it gives good timing sense vs races you play as undead eventually (I am Undead player too).

Okay some tips. Always make sealed base, as its good vs ORC or human with MK/paladin. Its always good idea to go low on ghouls vs random and scout early with aco as early as possible and tech to tier2 quickly. Now you can choose to go gargs or naga or something funky.

Oh and go DK always even if its going to be mirror, many randomed undeads do go dk fiends.
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Old 6th Aug 2008, 00:55 CEST   #4
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thx for the feedback, when u say a "sealed base", what do u mean? like everything in line with the main, or what? (cant really explain:P)
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Old 6th Aug 2008, 01:00 CEST   #5
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sealed means = surround your mine with 3 ziggus and a graveyard. So no one can join in, only the acos should be able to move out.
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Old 6th Aug 2008, 07:30 CEST   #6
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tech straight to t3, dont lose ghouls, sit on the base with 2 heroes, make 1-2 gargs, along with coilnova, they rape early wyvs, he will have to go back and do some antigarg, and you must switch to fiends now coz he will not have criticall mass of wyvs atm and you have much ghouls still
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Old 6th Aug 2008, 18:30 CEST   #7
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if hes doing a fast tech without grunts just run in with all your ghouls and tear down the burrows he cannot really stop you
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Old 8th Aug 2008, 09:11 CEST   #8
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TM is the map for DK with 'fiends-rush', i agree with #1 graveyard is a mustbuild at early perod. i never play with random players, it brings u into a situation so bad as u didnt scoute ur counterpart's 'birthplace'.
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Old 8th Aug 2008, 10:33 CEST   #9
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Sealed base can't avoid your opponent to harass aco with a zeppelin si you should let a fiend near the gold mine .
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