How to counter BM/TC AND hero focus?

[laskAMAZING]

So this is basically how I get owned by orcs while I play NE:
I go for archers -> 1-2 hunts -> talons
orc goes grunts + bm -> raiders + tc -> tc stun + bm ww = hero focus at its best

I know that you can counter it with an invulnerability potion but what after that? I mean it's nearly impossible to kick his tc with potions and I won't talk about BM ~.~

I know that I'm a noob so don't even start flaming me =(
Need tips please =(

[matthe88]

When you go talons, never build huntress..... when you are t2 buy Beastmaster at tavern and go straight t3.

When you have Beastmaster you need to go to the orc base and kick with quillbeasts, dh, archer, and bm some orc burrows.

While teching T3 you build 2 aowinds and you start to spamm talons and you buy orb, tinker, nelf staff when t3 has finished.

Ok. That is the basic. Now you can attack him (the orc). You always use cyclone on heroes and attacks one unit with all units you got. With tinker you go fabric and with bm quill/hawk to see his invis bm. With dh you do always manaburn on tc and spiritwalkers.

When the tc stuns you or uses a wave on all units, you should have a healing scroll to heal your talons. Otherwise they die too fast.


WHEN YOU PLAY ON A MAP WITHOUT TAVERN YOU GO DH, KOTG and dryads /bears, t3 and orb and nelft staff

[Forkxx]

I'm not a NE specialist but I think matthe88 is right. ;D

[icyF]

Just mana burn and cyclone the heroes. The stomp has such a small area of effect that it really is an easy task to keep the TC away from stomping.

[laskAMAZING]

Thank you for your help really appreciated it =)

[the_dead_lord]

Hmm, but the orc can have spirit walker's and dispell cyclone. ) so try micro them little bit to.

GGGL

[An1mA]

lol stomp the tc is cycloned before or left with empty manapool oO

[Meitre]

Yup but we must have nelf staff after t2 if faster we have biggest chance to def our archers...In fact we have to runniing dh with staff of teleportation behind tc and his army. our bm have to creep.And when we are fighting with our opponent we have to kill 1st raiders!!

[JustLittlestar-]

tc without wave is just a joke

[Akatosch]

#8 agree

If the tc skills stomp-aura-stomp-aura you can calculate him as a noob, because his stomp hasnt the power to focus your hero in the army that quickly, if you mirco it nice. Just dont stay the whole time in the first row and thats it. If he tries to ensnare you permament just attack his support units quickly (shamane, spiritswalker, docs), because he wont have the time to do 3 things at once!