Esport Poker League16.05.2007, 14:37 • written by Gus 'ChillPill' Logan • 575 views
shamans LS buff
Okay, I'm bracing myself for the eventual wave of merciless flaming but I really think Blizzard should make Shamans' Lightning Shield affect only enemy units the way it did in early RoC. I'm not advocating auto-cast Purge (which I remember made Shamans unstoppable against all but the best HUs) but LS, as it's currently constructed, is such an unfocused and unwieldy spell to use. Ever since Walkers came out, Shamans seem to be phased out of the Orc Army. All Orcs seem to do now is build Shamans and Raiders. Maybe this way, more Shamans would get built, especially against HUs, which most Orcs have difficulty with nowadays thanks to Sky, and perhaps even against the UD's mass Fiends strat.I don't think it's imba at all because the game already has so many magic- negating spells-- too much in my opinion, in fact. Abolish. Devour. Disenchant. Dispel.
While we're at it, I'd love to see a Necro upgrade, too. It should take more than one magic-negating burst to eradicate an entire radius of summoned skeletons.
Replies (28)
      #2 16.05.2007, 15:17  Posts : 471 Member since : 10 Feb 05 | As much as I would like to be a biased orc pla Ls is fine the way it is. ______________________ How do you do, my name is Trouble. |
#3 16.05.2007, 16:15 Posts : 2 Member since : 31 Mar 06 | make Shamans' Lightning Shield affect only enemy = lvl 3 DH imoloation + cost less mana. is that fair to put on a bm and tc?? no offense, but its like deadman wanting evasion aura-> crazyman talk O_O |
#4 16.05.2007, 16:58 Posts : 172 Member since : 13 Jan 05 | @#3: There's a major loophole is your analogy-- you can't negate Immolation with a spell like Abolish or Dispel. You can to a BM or TC with LS. Plus, all the units that have magic-negating spells are already staples of their respective armies: Priests for HUs, Destros for UDs, and Dryads for NE. |
#5 16.05.2007, 18:12  Posts : 406 Member since : 30 Jan 07 | many people are going about this all wrong, all you need to beat a hu with orc is mass towers |
#6 16.05.2007, 20:29  Posts : 333 Member since : 24 Sep 06 | Shamans is a broken unit, horrible damage, awful army role, Slow > BloodLust and LS is owned by Dispels and when you target your Grunts they damage each other cuz Meele have tendence to Cluster. Shaman are out of service for a long time. =/ |
#7 16.05.2007, 20:52 Posts : 172 Member since : 13 Jan 05 | @#6: Exactly why they need a buff! :D |
#8 16.05.2007, 20:59 Posts : 238 Member since : 06 Jan 05 | But this buff would make orc insanely overpowered no ground units could hope to stand against chain + wave + ls unless magic immune ______________________ To error is human, to forgive is not company policy |
#9 16.05.2007, 21:59 Posts : 406 Member since : 30 Jan 07 | yea, if it doesnt affect your own units than thats really imba, but i guess as long as it allows orcs to beat elves its balanced right? |
#10 16.05.2007, 23:04 Posts : 333 Member since : 24 Sep 06 | You don't to keep them exactly as it is now, reduce the damage, or nerf another thing. It's not that difficult, ;) |
#11 17.05.2007, 16:13  Posts : 156 Member since : 05 Jan 07 | Its ok the way it is! :p ______________________ I don't think of the Future, it comes soon enough! |
#12 17.05.2007, 17:14 Posts : 172 Member since : 13 Jan 05 | If they're fine, how come no one uses them anymore? These aren't like Necros or Banshees that were never staples of their army. Shamans were at one time. Now they aren't. |
 #13 17.05.2007, 19:43 Posts : 14 Member since : 27 Mar 06 | if they would only affect on enemy units, they should do like 5 dmg per sec, it would be fair maybe |
#14 18.05.2007, 00:06  Posts : 206 Member since : 28 Jan 05 | Shamans were only made for purge and bloodlust, though mostly purge. You'd pretty much only use your shaman to dispell a summon or to remove slow from a unit. Spirit Walkers can dispell a whole radius removing many slows and hitting multiple summons. As for ls its fine the way it is its just not popularised by the pros so noone really uses it. Throw ls on a blade master then have him ww into a hu's ba |
#15 18.05.2007, 22:53 Posts : 172 Member since : 13 Jan 05 | SW Euro/Americas Qualies: Protois played HU against the Orc Rob and won. MadFroG played HU against the Orc Lose and won. I don't think they were trying to avoid the UD vs. Orc matchup so much as trying to exploit the HU vs Orc matchup. I'm sorry, I'm still not deviating from my belief that the Orc need a buffed up Shaman to compete against HU now. |
#16 18.05.2007, 23:03 Posts : 333 Member since : 24 Sep 06 | In the WCG 2005, Sky introduced the "Sky Strat", with Mass Sorcs + Summons. Now we are almost in the WCG 2007 and no sigficant change was made. 2 Years and the same joke strat =/. |
#17 18.05.2007, 23:09 Posts : 471 Member since : 10 Feb 05 | Sky wasn't the first one with dual sanctums and mass casters. I believe that was Insomnia. Sky, however, made the t2 tower push to what it is today. ______________________ How do you do, my name is Trouble. |
#18 19.05.2007, 06:10 Posts : 406 Member since : 30 Jan 07 | icyf > sky |
#20 19.05.2007, 17:38 Posts : 62 Member since : 12 Jan 05 | Remove human! |
#21 19.05.2007, 20:18 Posts : 206 Member since : 28 Jan 05 | If you remove human who will undead get to own? -.- |
#23 20.05.2007, 10:55 Posts : 172 Member since : 13 Jan 05 | How about this for a compromise? If a unit that has been cast with LS comes into contact with another unit that has been cast with LS, than neither unit takes damage. It even makes sense scientifically, doesn't it? Something about positive and negative electrons cancelling each other out or something... duh, I no good at physics... :S |
#24 01.06.2007, 23:29  Posts : 55 Member since : 06 Dec 06 | well isnt hard to see where the hu vs orc match is imbalanced, but im sure it isnt because of shaman's ls... what about a buff on disenchant? maybe its mana cost is too much to match mass caster with brilliance aura.. |
#25 02.06.2007, 00:49 Posts : 21 Member since : 09 May 07 | ESWC = Nelfmappool? ;( Would be really nice to see orcs a bit buffed... anyways, I heard there is nice cheese in rotterdam ;P |
WC3 Replay Manager #26 03.06.2007, 06:51  Posts : 371 Member since : 18 Jun 06 | Ls > hu ... ______________________ Agianst All Odds~~ |
| StarCraft Editor #27 03.06.2007, 12:17  Posts : 1169 Member since : 29 Jun 06 | yep. make the game even more chobo-friendly :) might as well add auto-cast ls so that they pick the target in the middle of a group or whatever, so you don't have to think about that since you've got other things to think about, such as where to a+click. ______________________ If force won't work, use greater force. |
#28 03.06.2007, 13:43  Posts : 87 Member since : 31 Dec 05 | #17 you are right, Inso was the 1st, but Inso was the 1st, who invented many strats for hu and this is the reason that pla ______________________ www.ust-gaming.com |
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