Esport Poker League08.02.2007, 07:03 • written by Gus 'ChillPill' Logan • 1148 views
GoStop-Susiria: Best 2v2 Ever?
I don't think I'm alone in the belief that GoStop and Susiria were probably the best 2v2 team of all-time, but can anyone back this up with statistical evidence? As I recall, they were undefeated for two straight WC3L seasons. Anyone have their official record. I believe aNc.Delicato and aNc.Sjow (my personal favorite 2v2 team) went undefeated for one season.Replies (27)
   #1 08.02.2007, 09:51 Posts : 8 Member since : 08 Feb 05 | they played fucking insane :D and yes i agree, they were the best 2v2 team |
#2 08.02.2007, 10:33 Posts : 13 Member since : 10 Apr 06 | Disagree with you. They were the best team around that time when there weren't many koreans participating in WC3L, also without Grubby/ToD. Nowadays Moon/Luci and ReMinD/SoJu should be by far stronger. Also Luci (who is better than GoStop hands down) and Susi also played together for some time but lost some of the games against the very good teams so dun think GoStop would make such a difference nowadays.. ______________________ ~~~ ><(((°> ~~~ |
 #3 08.02.2007, 10:45 Posts : 16 Member since : 03 Feb 07 | susiria and gostop were the best 2v2 at the time they were plaing and moreover they had the cooolest style ever! the best 2v2 overall is susiria/lucifer imo. makes me so sad they didnt play much last wc3l season. i think they are better and more innovativ than moon/lucifer. ofc there is always a big random factor in 2v2 matches, so its not easy to tell, wether one team is really better than another. |
  #4 08.02.2007, 10:47  Posts : 570 Member since : 17 Jan 06 | Well Z&Z were a powerhouse for a while... but a 2 v 2 in my oppinion takes a bit more than good solo individual skills ______________________ Sup? |
#5 08.02.2007, 12:17  Posts : 96 Member since : 11 Feb 06 | ReMinD/SoJu #1 <3 ______________________ "Imagination is more important than knowledge" Einstein. |
#6 08.02.2007, 12:40 Posts : 222 Member since : 17 Oct 05 | Lucifer and Moon during season X were the best team of all time, without any doubt.. |
#7 08.02.2007, 14:48 Posts : 172 Member since : 13 Jan 05 | I think people who talk about Grubby/ToD, Lucifer/Moon and ReMinD/SoJu all have valid arguments, but what they lack is a legacy of 2v2 success, by that I mean these pairings are fairly recent, with short histories. Clans no longer recruit "specialty" 2v2 teams like FuRy/Lawn, Delicato/Sjow or Zerter/Zubie. In a season or two, I think the former teams can be considered for the title of best of all-time, but for now, GoStop/Susiria gets my vote for their success over the longest period of time of any 2v2 team, past or present, and the fact that they did it with the SAME race. People seem to underestimate how difficult that is. The point of most 2v2 pairings is to exploit the racial advantages of TWO different races (i.e. Endurance Aura + Trueshot Aura or ChainWave + CoilNova). GoStop/Susiria did it with ONE race. That's why I kinda wish ReMinD/SoJu would both play double NE, instead of Orc/NE. ;D But can I go back to my question: Does anyone at MYM no the official W-L record of GoStop/Susiria (or is it just a "W" record, no "L" ;P) Last edited by ChillPill at 08.02.2007, 14:53 |
 #8 08.02.2007, 15:15 Posts : 14 Member since : 27 Mar 06 | #7 They paired coilnova and coilnova. Shows where the imbalance lyes. And also about trueshot aura its 500gold 1 attack upgrade, so imo its overestimated. |
#9 08.02.2007, 19:18 Posts : 96 Member since : 11 Feb 06 | I don't remember their games =( Shame on me :S ______________________ "Imagination is more important than knowledge" Einstein. |
#10 08.02.2007, 19:34  Posts : 400 Member since : 26 Nov 06 | GoStop imbalance, where's he now? ;/ estro? ______________________ You have to live before you die young. (Ghost of Perdition) |
Warcraft 3 Manager #11 08.02.2007, 19:52 Posts : 1332 Member since : 06 Jan 05 | They went undeafeated in season 6 never dropping a map untill losing their first ever 2on2 match in the grand final vs. Deadman/Caravaggios towerstrategies. ______________________ I line up my hair perfectly! |
#12 08.02.2007, 20:21 Posts : 172 Member since : 13 Jan 05 | @Nordahl: Did they lose the map or the series to 64AMD? Also, didn't they go undefeated another season (although with map losses)? |
#13 09.02.2007, 09:20  Posts : 156 Member since : 05 Jan 07 | GOSTOP and Susiria used 2 be the best team before. BUT FOR now its MOON & LUCI! ______________________ I don't think of the Future, it comes soon enough! |
#14 09.02.2007, 13:28  Posts : 333 Member since : 24 Sep 06 | There were good teams , like Winners&Winnerz, FarSeer&Rainbow and Fury&Lawn. Today I beliave Grubb&ToD and Moon&Lucifer are the most solid teams. Last edited by at 09.02.2007, 13:29 |
 #16 09.02.2007, 16:37 Posts : 22 Member since : 17 Feb 05 | #11 Nordahl i think i remember the game. Wasn't it played on Turtle Rock? |
| Warcraft 3 Manager #17 09.02.2007, 18:00 Posts : 1332 Member since : 06 Jan 05 | #12 They lost the match and we lost the finals. I remember it quite clearly because we felt comfortable we would win seeing as they had never lost a map but we ended up losing. I think they did go undefeated for yet another season with map losses thou, but I can't be sure, it is some time ago now. #16 The final map was played on TM as I recall. I don't rememeber the other maps. ______________________ I line up my hair perfectly! |
#18 10.02.2007, 06:55 Posts : 13 Member since : 10 Apr 06 | yea TR and TM were the maps they lost. Deadman and Cara came up with a rly surprising strategy since they had nothing to lose anyway.. ______________________ ~~~ ><(((°> ~~~ |
#19 12.02.2007, 07:01 Posts : 1 Member since : 13 Nov 06 | Nordahl will we be seeing more Lucifer/Susi this season or Lucifer/Moon? and why? Thanks |
#20 12.02.2007, 13:42 Posts : 16 Member since : 03 Feb 07 | [x] susiria/lucifer best 2v2 ever! imo they are the best solo gamers atm as well. was really nice to see them in 2v2 against sk |
| Warcraft 3 Manager #21 12.02.2007, 15:11 Posts : 1332 Member since : 06 Jan 05 | #19 we will see on a match to match basis, depending on who feels good and who wants to play and so on :) Last edited by at 12.02.2007, 17:06 ______________________ I line up my hair perfectly! |
#22 12.02.2007, 19:03 Posts : 400 Member since : 26 Nov 06 | Luci + Susi nice x2 but dunno, unfortunately Orc + Elf is a little bit imbalanced ;/ ______________________ You have to live before you die young. (Ghost of Perdition) |
#25 19.03.2007, 06:49 Posts : 33 Member since : 17 Sep 06 | Luci/Moon in season X was insane. Moon's awesomeness goes without saying, but Lucifers Orc was simply flawless. Lucifer totally dominates with Blademaster/Tauren Chieftain. It's amazing to watch 2v2 with Luci(Orc)/Moon(Ne), when they are both on fire. |
#26 21.03.2007, 19:22 Posts : 333 Member since : 24 Sep 06 | Will Soccer/Fov surpass GoStop/Susiria?;D |
#27 25.03.2007, 22:44 Posts : 3 Member since : 23 Jan 05 | "They paired coilnova and coilnova. Shows where the imbalance lyes." Their matches were fast paced with dual crypts ghouls and the majority of them didn't reach tier 2. And the CL first on Avalanche. Good ol' time. |
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