Esport Poker League09th July 2007, 12:30
MIStrZZZ not banned from MYM KOTH
giga, giga2, koth, maphack, mistrzzz, mym
He is the current MYM KOTH, powered by GIGA 2: 
LRM)MIStrZZZ! He is standing on the Hill since five weeks now, and showed some great performances. But lately, a couple of replays of him showed some actions that were considered as hack by some parts of the community - the man from Poland is accused of maphack.
Of course, there were found some suspicious actions in the latest replays, but there is still no 100% clean proof. Due to this fact, we decided on careful deliberation to not ban MistrZZZ from the KOTH events.
He will play a bo5 battle on Wednesday in the next MYM KOTH, at 21.00 CET, live on GIGA 2. But he has to record first person VODs for every single played game and publish them all later on YouTube. If there should be further suspicious actions or more evidences we will reconsider our decision. I ask you to respect and support our decision.
Further MistrZZZ asked us to give him the chance to say some words to the community. We will give him this chance, because it is the first time that he gives an official statement about this issue.
"Ppl are accusing me, gamer who havent used maphack in any official (yes, I played on maphack in maybe 3 games for fun with friends, about 1 year ago) game, but made 10 suspicious moves in 100 games. Is that a reason to call anyone maphacker??? If yes, then think one more time - every game which contains my "suspicious" moves can be EASILY explained by ANY highskilled gamer who doesn't think that there is a hacker involved. It's not that I scanned burrowed lings in a corner of the map which I didn't see at all and don't have a reason to expect them there... its just simple logic - I don't see overlords when I scout the map, I see that I have same amount of expos and bigger army then opponent - I start to think "he can drop me" so I make cannons in the main and go back to it to protect cannons and leave ht there. Hell u can say "oh rly? u maphack anyway stupid chobo" well.. if u think like that then I just wonder why are u even able to use internet and computer with such an IQ. So if u are more clever than the ones which I've written above, which can be called for sure "idiots" - then just think about it - why do I sometimes make all-in builds? maybe it's cause I don't like to play all the time the same builds.. sometimes I lose, but lately in official matches I had more luck than opponent - is that a reason to call me a maphacker??? from now on every official match I'll play - I'll make a vod from it or/and make screenshots from the game I've played.. duno how many ppl will think that I maphack anyway, but maybe it will be a stronger proovement than words, greets and thx for reading."
Let's hope that this comment and the FPVODs will help to have a fair, friendly and hack-free StarCraft community.
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what people dont understand they call hack - you came out with 200/200 before they did, but they had 3expo while you had 1? you must've hacked. you intercept their mass drop while doing a routine check for expos with corsairs - and you got lucky by catching a drop - it must be hack as there is no luck in this game.
Last edited by Dendra at 09.07.2007, 12:39
If force won't work, use greater force.
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Boocraft
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ban him anyways
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#3 
Moule 
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As The1Crow said, there were found some suspicious actions in the latest replays, but there is still no 100% clean proof.
So it should be closed :o Packard Bell Four Kings Editor
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#4 
MIStrZZZ
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http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=7clhWgu-4Hg -> 4th minute - bisu suddenly goes just for the drop which gorush is going to make.. what a maphack.. why didnt he do it just in this moment? if he would go 10 secs later or 10 secs earlier.. this drop wouldnt be down
~The Legendary Protoss
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MIStrZZZ
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why bisu isn't banned from OSL or whatever? wtf?
~The Legendary Protoss
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Dknight
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I guess offline is different than online. --;
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MIStrZZZ
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and I guess that happens offline and online......
~The Legendary Protoss
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(last year)
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skAJ_pl
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I think the same as MistrZZZ... Sometimes you just have luck and gamers with skill know about game almoast everything... If you can THINK and you have sometimes lucky you would win your games. This game that MistrZZZ posted is great answear to your questions... Bisu and GoRush, great gamers, but one of them had more luck... That's all.
I can't defend MistrZZZ becouse I don't know him, but when it would be no 100% proofs that he hacks I think he must stay on MYM KOTH position. Besides like MistrZZZ said, if there is 10 suspicious actions in 100 games or more this is just stupid for me to call someone maphacker BEFORE there will be 100% sure that he is tt; GL MistrZZZ and I hope you said true ;) | |
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Dknight
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So why mention what one of the best Korean gamers does offline? It has no point. To compare their thinking of the game to foreigners is a bit drastic.
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NumbSchiller
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Quote from TL.net by CubEdIn:
If you go out to an expansion on the very bottom of the map and you see no overlord there then you go MY GOD HE HAS TO BE DROPPING ME!! QUICK BACK TO ba THERE IS OBVIOUS PROOF. He had the units attacking and then he went back to ba Oh and did I mention that if YOU WATCH THE REPLAY WITH 1.14 and FPPLAY you can CLEARLY see that towards the end the replay he does look at hullah's rally point for about 10 seconds (accumulated) without having ANY vision of that spot whatsoever. But I bet you do that all the time in your games, right? Look at a fogged spot on the map and just ponder? Also right before the drop mistrzzz performs a storm drop. There were 4 scrouges (that mistrzzz did not know about) between ba Also other suspicious moves would be scouting diagonally on luna while building 9/9 gates without seing what zerg does, and in the bo5 with shaman he did fast expo in EVERY GAME except the one where shaman 5pooled, where (guess what?) he double-gated. Goddamn it those a lot of suspicious moves don't you think? __________________ And I agree 100% | |
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ToTKaiSeR
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its 100 suspicious actions on 10 games not the contrary, but i agree there is no proofs u are always lucky every game u play wich is imposible in a game o.o
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i read posts of carmac or whoever and others on tl.net, i won't even bother putting an explanation of that game here as it's obvius it would be useless trying to explain.
Last edited by Dendra at 09.07.2007, 15:05
If force won't work, use greater force.
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MIStrZZZ
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#9 so maybe I am actually much better than u think that I am?
~The Legendary Protoss
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myMYM|CryMeAReaver
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It should be handled, like in the Tour de France. If someone might dope (hack) he wont drive the tour (play the koth).
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imported_NoXQS
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There were some suspicious Moves in the last Matches, but its not for sure...
You better keep 2 eyes on him. Frauen an die Macht! Macht Essen,macht Kaffee,macht sauber!
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Carnac
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Quoting MIStrZZZ:That's a totally retarded example. He had chased away Gorush's mutas (again) and was simply scouting what Gorush was up to with the Cors, it was a _totally_obvious_next_move. Also you cannot compare flying around with Corsairs trying to scout and maybe hunt some Overlords in the process to you retreating your _hole_ground_army_ for no good reason.... Seriously dude Our Mecca is called Wacken.
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Quoting Carnac: there are 3good reasons, once you figure them out you'll be worthy of one's time If force won't work, use greater force.
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ilbh
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omg. bisu was only scouting w his corsairs and he saw the overlods. ofc he didnt know about the drop.
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kulik
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omg zzz u want compare ur self with bisu?:)
or reach if u watch at game from superfight reach vs nada that games looks like they both have mh but their skill is really far from ur btw i dont say u are mh, i havent seen none of ur game www.cybermachines.cz
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Tudazul
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It´s MSL game, between Bisu and Gorush, not OSL. ^^
"No Universo da Cultura o Centro está em toda a parte M.Rea
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