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Old 13th Oct 2008, 20:34 CEST   #1
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I know it's long, but bear with me, it's scandal type material, i assure you, you won't regret it.

Ok, so here's the deal. I'm the team leader of groovy, an unknown team from an unknown country (colombia). In pride defending 11, we get to playoff preliminaries and have to play wicked, so, we play them. At 21 mins, we make a save. At 33 mins, one of my players discs, at which point wicked (and me) thinks that they have the decision to load, or continue playing. After they decide not to load, i decide to ff, since the player that disced is my carry winner hero. So, after the games we decide to look over the rules and find this:

Disconnect after a hero has been killed: If a savegame has been made within the last 15 minutes, then consult the rule below. If not then the game continues without the disconnected player.
If team 1 have killed 5+ heroes more than team 2 during the period of the last savegame and the disconnection, then the disconnect is in the favour of team 1.
For example:
- At the time of the savegame the score is 35-35
- At the time of the disconnection the score is 42-37 for team 1
- Since team 1 have killed 5+ heroes more than team 2, team 1 may now chose whether to continue the match or remake from the savegame.

Source: http://www.mymym.com/en/coverage/524/1.html

At 33 mins, we had taken down 4 towers, wicked only one, and we were down by 3 hero kills. If my math is correct, that gives us a 6 kill advantage, as towers count for 3 hero kills each. So, we decide to talk to an admin about it (utherX) and he decides that we the right to play again from load, since the rules help us in this situation:

// [17:28] <myMYM|UtherX> qwery wicked|Alex-
[17:28] <myMYM|UtherX> to re-schedule

Well, as you may know, we where besides ourselves with joy. Anyway, we talk to alex, and he tells us we'll reschedule today. But to our surprise (and dismay) we find out that the same admin told wicked|Fire today, that they get the win. I mean... that's just stupid, anyway, we decide to keep on talking and to understand the decision. After a while, we talk to alex, and he tells us this:

<wicked|Alex-> well (no offense) admins told my mates, that we should just ignore you -_-

<wicked|Alex-> [18:15] <wicked|Fire> (18:14:41) (myMYM|UtherX) ignore them
<wicked|Alex-> [18:15] <wicked|Fire> (18:14:45) (wicked|Fire) k

Ok... so that's my point. Since we are not european but south american, and we are not WICKED a known team, then they tell them to "ignore us" ?. If that's not racism, biased decisions and admin abuse... then i don't know what is. I've got full chatlog on everything i've posted, complete with screenshots. I hope the mymym community helps us on this one, and i REALLY hope that some TRUE admin hears our plea.

I want it to be clear, that i don't blame wicked for anything, they have been a real friendly and understanding team, my fight is against admins like UtherX.

Thank you for your time, and again, sorry for the long post, i just wanted everything to be explained in full detail.
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 20:47 CEST   #2
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If the admins are giving privilege to known teams why do they waste their time on making some qualifiers if there is NOT equality of treatment for all teams.

Just make PDL -_-
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 20:58 CEST   #3
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Playday 1: 07 - 12th Oct.
It's 13th - why do you think we will make exception for your team. There was a situation like this with sWc vs Ins - no exception...
Is it our fault that you have shitty connection ?
Is it our fault that you arrange game in last day in 22 CET (2 hours before deadline) when you know about possible drops etc...?

Continue whining - nothign will change

Good luck in next tournaments that you will participate!
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 20:59 CEST   #4
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Really sad that this kind of things happen, groovy its up for this tournament and its sad to see it go out like this

Go! Go! groovy!
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 21:03 CEST   #5
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ah... is it our!?

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Old 13th Oct 2008, 21:04 CEST   #6
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How about telling us that from the start ? TO US, and not tell the other team to "just ignore us" huh ? how do you explain that ? Is it our fault that you're a shitty admin ? Is it our fault that you make biased decisions and tend to tell every team what they want to hear ? We contacted you past deadline time, and you told us we had to reschedule... Did your puny little mind just "forget" those facts that you're saying now ? If that's the case, you should see a neurologist, because you have a serious memory issue, and also a subjective as hell mind.

Thank you, i will continue, not whining, but yelling facts out to a community that's being abused by people like you.
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 21:04 CEST   #7
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The reason the game was played n sunday was wicked and not us could not play before then. Then again, you see what you want to see.
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 21:06 CEST   #8
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wow....
1- groovy tried to schedule from the first day, wicked didnt.
2- if we read the rules, it is said that there must be a load, read mb?
MyM should review his staff
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 21:18 CEST   #9
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Groovy we are whit you!

People from MyM Commited HELP WHIT THIS PROBLEM! DONT ELIMINATED TEAMS THAT WANT TO PROGRES IN THIS TOURNAMENTS!
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 21:18 CEST   #10
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Someone paid 10 000 euro to mym for that.It is not against your team , its all against Colombia.It is coming from a higher level of power(I think it was an order from the USA goverment).Now i am flying to South Africa because that was confidential information.
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 21:18 CEST   #11
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should analyze the rep to be able to draw conclusions. WITHOUT PREFERENCES
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 21:36 CEST   #12
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I think loosing a prime game for a disc problem is so stupid thing, i say go rmk,i say go colombia, i say go groovy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 21:53 CEST   #13
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Don't know about the scheduling issues nor if what you're saying with the game is actually true.

However, if it is, then you should definitely be granted a remake regardless of the schedule.

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Old 13th Oct 2008, 21:57 CEST   #14
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Continue whining - nothign will change


Kinda rude coming from an Admin, don't you think so?
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 21:59 CEST   #15
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Wenn man das Replay anschaut, sieht man ja ganz deutlich, dass Groovy beim gewinnen war! Ihr musst noch mal Groovy spielen lassen. Groovy ist einfach besser und das kann jeder sehen!
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 21:59 CEST   #16
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Thank you Maelk, and you can be sure that what we say is 100 % true.
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 22:02 CEST   #17
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"Is it our fault that you have shitty connection ?"

Kinda something you do not throw in a teams face. You want to make decisions as fair as possible and use reasons like this to back up your decisions. Wicked also dropped ones, it could be host not them.

Unfortunately for you guys , you have become victims to what many know as the dark side, conspiracy, hidden part of prime defending. Decisions like these have been questioned for a long time. Good luck in future games, sorry this had to happen to you guys.
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 22:07 CEST   #18
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Yes, i know that, but, if metro and sirro were thrown out of admin crew, i'll at least make sure that they reconsider UtherX as part of it.
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 22:07 CEST   #19
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#16 It's not my decision. I told this guys yesterday that head admin will check their case tomorrow(i.e today) and that is all.Told them to pm her with facts etc..And don't know why everybody thinks that it was my decision ROFL!
I except groovy guys to appologize me immediatelly!
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 22:08 CEST   #20
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It's simply a question of manners to replay that match. There hasn't been a definite decision and it'd definitely be good sportsmanship play the game once more.
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