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Old 22nd Sep 2008, 04:27 CEST   #1
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I love Dota, but it is slowly becoming a "carrry" oriented game... and boring... It think these suggestions need a look to improve the game but maintaining all the balance it has long created....

"The only thing constant in this world is change... and Dota needs change to be able to survive!". Before it was fun to play even with the imbalances... But now it became more balance (not still perfect, hard to create one, right) but rather it became static and coul take hours to play (in proffesional tourneys).... not good for a game, but it I got hope (more drama)...

Why not create two modes: 'copied from the previous post'
1. QUICK RESPAWN - [divide the respawning time by 10-20 ... 1 minute becomes more/less 5 secs].

Although aegis will not have its use... maybe give it additional functions like respawning on the battle, with full mana and hp. But most of the effect of this command will be on battle. "THERE WILL BE MORE ACTION". Thus making it more lively and fun to play.

This will give noobies a fighting chance, to improve their game, Not just being pawned everytime!!!!... Then they get superfrustated, thus flooding the game with insults!!! :-)... This mode will surely give the players Manners and surely Reduce Leaver counts on Genera.

Give it a label something like "-fs" or Fast Respawn Mode.

2. Dash - [additional abitily for all heroes: give X5 movement speed for 1 secs and after X.2 movement speed for 1.2 sec, cooldown of 15 secs.... needs more improvement]

Although this is too much to handle, but from what I what I see this will give this game its competitive edge... This will give same hero (with different controller) its unpredictablity and have different builds everytime/ maybe not always. One thing for sure with this mode "THE PROS WILL BE SHINNING FROM THE NOOBIE-CARRY". :-).... This will give dodging heroes like QOP, POTM, and Migina vulnerability since they are hard to catch often times.
It will be -da for "Dash Mode".

Hope to see this soon... in newer versions, I'm counting on it. Even if you don't include my name to it, but surely it will IMPROVE DOTA. Remember just trial suggestions.

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Update: 'I can't edit my old thread!!?'

You're Reactions: With my reactions

1. Just play AI... Trust me (hehe!)
No Comment... I don't play one... But I think they're are good creepkillers.

2. Bring back the old dagger Era (6.48b)...
Maybe if you can just put a upgrade item on dagger, an addtional 1000k perhaps to bring back the old days of "Dragon-Ball-Ganking style".

3. Nerf Heroes like Nevermore, TB, Luna (just sligtly)
There's no need nerfing for me, if only there's an item for anti-agi heroes... like a smok screen for miss-trigger and a separate one for silence-trigger... Nerfing Int-heroes in the mid-game and Nerfing Agi-heroes in the eng-game.

4. 'Fun!' to play... But 'Boring!' to watch...
If you can just fill the hero slots... no bans to avoid more complications... Another is , addional item for building creator [20 secs building time] and you can teleport on it, just like towers, but no damage ofcoure about 700k. Also my suggestions might just be the answer in this complecated question.
Another is a 'Hero-draft' in one tourney... just like team-owners drafting rookies.... (LOL :-)... just suggesting) so that every hero is used.

I hope this is read by Icefrog... This not to destroy Dota but to relive it... I lot of pressure for someone who isn't paid (maybe that much) for his work!!! Just image my dynamic Dota (hehe... I hope i can edit Dota)
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Old 22nd Sep 2008, 08:03 CEST   #2
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there was maybe one viable suggestion in this whole post
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Old 22nd Sep 2008, 14:26 CEST   #3
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@ 1
"one" and "whole" sound so contrast.. :P
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Old 22nd Sep 2008, 15:13 CEST   #4
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the only suggestion I agree with is nerf TB
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Old 22nd Sep 2008, 19:57 CEST   #5
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I agree to a 3-4k gold Dagger with no cooldown after being touched by anything and I agree to nerfing TB's illusions a bit. For the rest Icefrog has to find something else^^ Let's see what his new update will bring.

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Old 23rd Sep 2008, 08:25 CEST   #6
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agrees with post1...

^that would bring back the old dagger...changes how team's playing style again...like back in the old verions...no juking skills required to make an escape with "keldar's dagger of escape" lol.

let us all wait and see
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Old 25th Sep 2008, 01:16 CEST   #7
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Make meka stackable again, remove restrictions from book and you will get old school 5v5 ass kicking again. But then again... Every1 found that boring back in those days, and since then I just dont rly care, im just adjusting to the changes the best i can...
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Old 25th Sep 2008, 01:19 CEST   #8
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Oh yes, almost forgot to reply the author. We appreciate the effort but your idea is plain shit... I mean people can tell that youre a noob, no offence but try again when you rly get to know the game..
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Old 25th Sep 2008, 06:49 CEST   #9
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the only thing I agree is to nerf TB

sry to say this but you really don't understand the game.
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Old 25th Sep 2008, 07:33 CEST   #10
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to the author,
have you ever played on a competitive dota?.. because your suggestions were ROFL
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Old 25th Sep 2008, 08:05 CEST   #11
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I love dotA at moment eventhough dagger is not good as 6.48b lol.
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Old 28th Sep 2008, 12:39 CEST   #12
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Yes, I do play competitive Dota for a long time now... Before it was just 5.84c ("I think"), when there was pooling and all other abuses...

Then the rules came, and started to evolve and became balance as well as boring... I think this suggestions would bring back the Glory days of Dota...
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Old 28th Sep 2008, 14:35 CEST   #13
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xD.. Fast respawn mode, then you think the game will become LESS carry oriented? xD

The entire post was a complete waste of my precioustime.
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Old 2nd Oct 2008, 19:27 CEST   #14
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Yes, I do think a fast respawn mode would make the game more fun to players and to observers also...!!

I would have an atmosphere like in Counter-Strike were you need to be aware all the time... maybe it will not be fun for u... but the game needs to evolve...

Most organizers says the game is becoming boring (even players like Loda!- the no1 player as of now, says Dota is boring)... Need change... and I think (for my honest opinion) Dota needs change!!!
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Old 2nd Oct 2008, 21:10 CEST   #15
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imo you only one thing should be changed...make creeps gold * 1/2... maybe some additional changed of the items charge and voilĂ . Hero killing will be the "only" or the very faster way to get items..so I guess this ricing stuff what I really trendy atm will be not longer part of the game and ppl start playing it more as a team with a lot of ganging and teamfights.
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Old 12th Nov 2008, 13:25 CET   #16
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nevermore maybe nerf a little i think kinda strong !!do you agree??
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Old 12th Nov 2008, 17:37 CET   #17
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wait, so if it's not for icefrog, who is it for?
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Old 12th Nov 2008, 17:48 CET   #18
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Rework Silencer's Curse of the Silent. Its pointless when using a castable orb (Frost Arrow, Arcane Orb, Glaives of Wisdom, Searing Arrows, Impetus.)
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