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Old 21st Aug 2008, 08:16 CEST   #1
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Recently I have started gaming again and it's because of DotA^^
It got me hooked!!!
playing on Garena is really nice for someone like me that lives in Japan.
I have become much better then when i first started but i want to now try out more hero combinations and things like that which aren't possible without a friend in game and since I don't have DotA friends i would love it if I can play with some of the people I know on the MYM site...

I usually play on the USservors and if you wouldn't mind playing with me and teaching me a few tricks while your at it, plz leave your account name and the servor you use while your on Garena!!!
Mine is Epiphany! by the way!!

Also, can you tell me how Dark Seer is suppossed to be played?
I have no idea how to use the melee intel hero...
dps?? well looking for any answers!!!
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Old 21st Aug 2008, 11:43 CEST   #2
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Add me.. Same nick in here.. Stealer_ Im from MY
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Old 22nd Aug 2008, 11:13 CEST   #3
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sure y not =) MDC|TheP

add me

dark seer is very versitile

u can play cheap build early game with jus 2 nulls and a bottle

as u get richer in the game u can buy a guinsoo, orchid or a shiva guard to support hex, silence and slow and it gives u a certain amount of damage to hit enemies..(even though u dont actually need damage coz ur ion shell is pretty painful T.T)

some people buy battle fury too but its up to u really coz its pretty expensive. besides now int items are pretty cool so if u like alot of clicking items i suggest go for the 3 items on top.

thats all i cud say i guess...haha...play in Malaysian server if u like..add me so we can play together
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Old 6th Sep 2008, 05:05 CEST   #4
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How do you use darkseers ult?
is it to stop pushes?
How to best use it??
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Old 6th Sep 2008, 05:22 CEST   #5
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Use it for pushing or to defend.. Control the image wisely cause it may be useful =)
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Old 6th Sep 2008, 08:10 CEST   #6
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Note that Darkseer ulti creates a maximum of 1 image of each allies hero no matter how many times u walk pass it but it creates 1 image of enemy hero everytime they walk pass so place your ulti on the cliff when u are defending and behind the tower when u are pushing, this ensures the enemy hero to create at least one image if they decide to come in to your base
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Old 6th Sep 2008, 09:10 CEST   #7
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practically u can use the ulti anytime especially to create confusion in battles..since the ulti creates 1 image of a hero that passes through it.

if u ulti at for ur allies to rush in the enemies towers then yes it does help pushing.

if u decided to just defend ur base when the enemy wants to push in. as long as u ulti at the right time when they rush in ur base..u can create loads of their images to fight against them so its good for defending also.

the best way is probably to get a refresher item coz the ulti stacks.

meaning u can produce 2 images of a single hero..

use ur imagination...5 heroes + image wall + image wall = 15 heroes hahaha..really cool especially when all ur allies are heroes that can produce image and have mantastyle...it's really gay
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Old 6th Sep 2008, 09:39 CEST   #8
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Hi Asuka!u can add me on GG..my username is kraziEEEE..i always am online on GG so if u wana play just holla XD
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Old 6th Sep 2008, 17:45 CEST   #9
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STEALER_-
I find it quite hard and just use them as auto attacking units... They don't have that much dps anyways so I always thought this ult while fancy looking was lacking...
It would be fun if they could cast some spells too but that would be op^^

THELH-
That I did not know!!
Thanks for that
So the point is to maybe make it hard for opponents to go in with all the images blocking them and you can hit them from ranged maybe... lol

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So good places to put ult are the entrace ramps to the bases, near towers during pushes and your own base when defending...
I also loved ion shell with a weavers watchers^^
Was very imba in the beggning and was funny because they did not know how they were losing their HP!!

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Too bad we couldn't play today><
Maybe next time!!
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Old 8th Sep 2008, 09:39 CEST   #10
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Old 8th Sep 2008, 16:42 CEST   #11
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Old 9th Sep 2008, 07:48 CEST   #12
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ur right! see u got the concept..hehe..i used that too in ggc and was accused of mh for nothing T.T

but strategy is strategy u know..haha..good job
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Old 9th Sep 2008, 17:01 CEST   #13
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PESTENESS-
I don't see you on Garena...
You must play on Bnet??
I have stopped playing on bnet so you wont find me there

THEP-
Yeah that trick was very interesting and odd
Any other interesting combos that work??
Lothars on Yunero was also fun
Blade and then go ww
Only works if u can farm it fast enough so that you can use it when bladefury is most deadly during midgame
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Old 10th Sep 2008, 03:24 CEST   #14
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yeah~ lothar is best for yunero early game both pub and clan matches >< makes him so gay really.haha

u can try this 1 if u like =)

try buying 4 buriza or 4 crystalis for troll. as u know crit stacks as u buy more. so the more u buy it the more critical comes out

buriza 20% crit x 4 = 80% (well it has diminishing effect so it isnt exactly 80%)

crystalis 10% crit x 4 = 40%

since troll doesnt really need attackspeed items coz of his ulti..its fits perfectly for him and try pairing him up with an omniknight so u get free bkb (repel) and slow (degen aura) so all u need is 4 crit items a 1 satanic and a power treads(although it may seem insanely hard to get all of this items before end game ><).

there's 1 thing strange about this build.. i dont know if its a bug or not but if u have 4 buriza (jus for this occasion) you might see 2000+ crit damage coming out every almost 10 hits and this actually works for every hero..

crit item has 3 x normal damage rate.
3 x 300 = 900 damage
but strangely if u have 4 buriza some insane crit damage like 2000+ comes out..

but still 4 crits items is still best for troll (since he doesnt need IAS items)

try it on single player mode and jus -lvlup urself to lvl16 to check it out for ur self..test it by hitting neutrals..or try it with ur fren on ggc and ask him to use omni to support u. u'll see what i mean..happy trying ^^
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Old 10th Sep 2008, 04:08 CEST   #15
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THEP

no dude crit doesnt stack that way(diminishing returns)..if 2 crit occurs at the same time only the last item/skill u obtained will be counted..
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Old 10th Sep 2008, 07:52 CEST   #16
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i don't think chance of crit stacks
you can only have one skill of a type on a hero
like mkb, 5 mkbs on a hero will not give you 100 chance of extra damage
same with burizas
crit from mortred's ultimate and buriza should stack (in term of chance) because they are diffrent skills
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Old 10th Sep 2008, 07:57 CEST   #17
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LoL im pretty sure multiple Mkbs stack but not crtiticals. I may be wrong though. Hey..didnt this post start off as "lets play togther" ?
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Old 10th Sep 2008, 08:09 CEST   #18
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multiple mkbs dont stack, try making 5 and you should get ~99% ministun if they do stack
but you will not
same should be with criticals from multiple burizas
make 5 and go roshan, you should get ~80-90% crit chance
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Old 10th Sep 2008, 10:06 CEST   #19
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Burize doesnt stack with pa's coup de grace, as i said, if u get burize after getting 1 level of ulti, buriza will overide pa's ulti when both occured, and vice versa
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Old 10th Sep 2008, 10:15 CEST   #20
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i remember different correct me if i'm wrong
if you get 2 burizes the crit damage and chance does not stack
if i play phantom and i get a burize, i get 2 chance of critical, one from the buriza and one from coup de grace

if i get burize after getting 1 level of ulti, buriza will overide pa's ulti when both occured, and vice versa ---- that is correct but only in the event when both occure
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