11.05.2008, 09:11 • written by Ziemowit 'GoblinTheGob' Gowin • 3978 views

ToD, Hasu = Unfair players

What do you think about ToD allowing Hasu to win and then Hasu was 2-nd in their group.The last game ( tod vs hasu ) showed us that ToD is an unfair pla<x>yer, of course Hasu is too. Yea, maybe it was the fault of organization but anyway they should do something about it. ToD could have played versus Hasu initially. Terror, Tod, Hasu should have played extra games.
I am so angry.


And look at this: http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/16973-
Match_fixing_controversy_in_Kode5_WC3
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#31 13.05.2008, 00:57

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#27 Terror and soccer are in the same team. One thing is looking at result of matches that already happened and looking at the players current shape in that situation. Infi was unbeatable, soccers played hell of matches there. Sadly shy had a better NE mirror then him and shy also played extremely well. Their skills were overall at KODE5 not to be compared with terror, they performed better reason for them being in top #3.
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#32 13.05.2008, 06:20

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i did see the reps...kinda obvious tod was letting hasu win...

i mean breaker/morts vs des/gargs???

but still doesnt really matter...i would do the same in tod's situation -.-
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#33 13.05.2008, 10:50

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#32, do the same? for what? to let your teammate be happy just for one more round? i don't think that they did it to help each other...just for money. anyway this case making e-sport unfair, like a clandestine box when is a round in which one boxer loosing and everyone making money on bets. and this is bullshit coz the way like that e-sport will never become sport at all.
 

#34 13.05.2008, 12:17

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I didn't even bother reading all the comments since most of them are just repeating the ones before.

Anyways, all of you who judge Tod and Hasu for what they may have or may not have done on purpose, and whine about "fair play" and all that shit, to you I say WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD.
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#35 13.05.2008, 12:18

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only the Poles are angry about it who cares infi would still win the tour omg
 

#36 13.05.2008, 12:52

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we speak not about the winner omg...

#37 13.05.2008, 14:50

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@Mrow
because you are just a dishonest jerk.
@35
read all posts again, then write something.
@27
oh yeah ! Look at all matches Terror vs Hasu - not only kode5 .. ;)
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#38 13.05.2008, 20:01

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#34 It's not like the world will ever be a better place if you keep having those thoughts. Way to ruin it for the others.

To you I say, welcome to the everchanging world. You're just too locked up in the present, you're saying we're going to be what we're right now. I beg to differ.
 

#39 13.05.2008, 20:40
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terror had 6-4 maps won/lost
hasu/tod had 6-3 maps won/lost
and if tod and Hasu weren't teammates, we could blame them for their unmanner.
And if terror had at least low chances to win this tournament, he wouldnt lose to tod with 0-2.
 

#40 13.05.2008, 21:51

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This would actually be a big deal if a favorite would have been screwd out of his playof place but lets face it, Terror would have lost his first match in playofs... i would be angry also, but i wouldnt let it go to mind... this should only serve as a lesson to players who have to demand things and not just agree with admins when they are being wronged at.
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#41 13.05.2008, 23:11
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Pfff hasu... n.c. All people know that terror place was outside group but hasu is .... all know. In playoffs hasu win in mirror against Happy , Terror won 2 time vs hasu so terror easy > happy. Next game he lose vs infi but fight for #3 place.
Now all players in the world must be versus hasu because we must destroy unfair and unmanner players. These players destroy esports ...

Anyway well played Infi :)

#42 14.05.2008, 06:06
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lol tod and hasu are teammates., why wouldnt they help each other?

If you guys are angry blame the admin.
 

#43 14.05.2008, 11:21

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Taking advantage of a Situation =/= Fairplay

#44 14.05.2008, 16:12
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Yo people. I got one thing that may interest you. I have posted this at SK-Gaming and i am repeatin it here. So...

I AM SORRY FOR CAPS LOCK, BUT I HAVE TO MAKE THIS NOTICED.
THERE WAS A DIALOGUE BETWEEN TOD ANS TERROR AFTER ALL THE AFFAIR. HERE IT IS.

Tod (grinning): Yo, so will you fight for the finals tommorow?
Terror: No, thanks to your machinations with Hasu.
Tod: What kind of machinations? We came to win, not to travel. Me and Hasu, we are earning money and you play for yourself, you understand. You are no professional, so don't be angry.
Terror: Pfff, we'll see how Hasu is going to win tommorow. And your chances are also poor.
Tod: Kid, i am earning money. And i earn more than your whole f*ckin family, so relax. You got no chances in the play-offs.
Terror (smiling): And i can see a little further than my nose. (with accent on "nose")

Tod makes an upset face and walks away.

I know a person, who heard the dialogue and i can SWEAR it is true. Not exact, probably, as i am retelling this, but it is true. I got an icq - any wishers can contact me to discuss it.
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#45 14.05.2008, 16:16

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I was one of the wc3 referees on the KODE5 tournament. I was really upset after this situation. My feelings was like i'm really shit.
But it wasn't our desicion, 'cause main admins(they aren't russians) didn't think that we could have such situation. Also we had only 8 computers and 20 players. If we had more computers, I decide re-game Tod-Hasu-Terror, even If main orgas wouldn't have agreed it.
So, i'm really sorry that this kind of stuff happend... But me and my team tried to do our best
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#46 14.05.2008, 16:55
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#44 It show what person is tod ... money = all.
F*** him but when he said that terror doesnt have chance i laugh. TOD WHAT U DONE IN PLAYOFFS ? Nothing 1 match 2-0 bye retard player :< I dont want see him never in team like wicked,mym,sk or mtw because those team are full of great and nice people but tod is .... Dialogue show all about him.
 

#47 14.05.2008, 17:07

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#38 If you believe those are my thoughts you are both right and wrong. I do live in the present, but I'm not locked up at all. The world sure is changing, and it always will. But do you seriously think the world is changing into anything better? Just look at the changes in the past 100 years or so. More wars, more strife, more hungry people, more disasters and more of everything that is not good at all. Sure there have been good things done, but do they come even close to negate the negative effects? No.

From what you said I get the feeling you are very naive and childish to believe in a "better world".
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#48 14.05.2008, 19:45

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@ #44 im sorry Mr. but your Troll fails hard as i talked to ToD before i can say hes not the most humble person ive ever known but he would never talk to a fellow atleth like that.
You pulling this "100% sure, friend told me" shit out of your ass.
Now im not a frequent SK forum reader but i guess you being laughed at at their forums too...

""
Tod: Kid, i am earning money. And i earn more than your whole f*ckin family, so relax. You got no chances in the play-offs.
Terror (smiling): And i can see a little further than my nose. (with accent on "nose")
""
That already sounds so fucking made up that i want to hit you in the face for lying and makeing ToD and Terror a bad name for pretending they would communicate in such manner...

plz get a life idiot and stop trolling ppl
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#49 14.05.2008, 19:54

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geez -.- happens...

#50 14.05.2008, 20:03

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@48
let's do that on WCG 2008 :)
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#51 14.05.2008, 20:17

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#48 i don't want to protect someone but the situation was may be not the same as 44 posted but really near for that. i heard some phrases like that but i didn't concentrate on its meaning. this dialogue had its place, sorry.
 

#52 14.05.2008, 20:22
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i hope he have ban for next kode5 ( ToD and HaSuObs)
*sry for my eng
 

#53 14.05.2008, 23:13

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#47 There's nothing naive and childish about believing in a better world, it's what you have to think if there's ever going to be a better world. Whatever you're thinking is never going to make it better, you're just moving along with the rest, never making a difference.

"Men often become what they believe themselves to be. If i believe i cannot do something, it makes me incapable of doing it. But when i believe I can, then I acquire the ability to do it even if I didn't have it in the beginning." - Mahatma Ghandi

Don't tell me you think Mahatma Ghandi as a childish and naive person...
If you read it carefully it's exactly the same as I've been saying. If you can't think of a better world, then you're never going to get it.

But... I think we're derailing the topic, lets continue in pm's if you want to.
 

#54 15.05.2008, 06:38
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#48 Terror confirmed it is true
 
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#55 15.05.2008, 07:40

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if that was true then tod is just being overly bm...not nice...

u alrdy duped the guy outta the tournament...but then dissing him after you dupe him...that's low -.-
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#56 15.05.2008, 09:46
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You should know something, before i played against HasuObs i didn't know what the rules were, wether or not it was mapscore or if there is a tie there would be regames.

I didn't even ask admins, i just played.

And also to avoid any confusion i didn't even talk to HasuObs before the game, didnt have a chat with him or made any arrangment.

I just said let's go and we played on. If i won everyone wouldn't question anything but i lost. HasuObs is in my team we often discuss strategies of Human vs Undead, i gave him a lot of replays of me so he knows my style way more than i know his, which made me play some unconventional stuff vs him.

On the EI game some people question my unit choice. I dont remember the game very well, but i remember that when i started producing a lot he had only 1 or 2 destroyers and it didnt look like he was going to get anymore, that's why i didnt mass flying machines, i didnt wanna get 20 flying machines vs 2 or 3 destros, i went full ground hoping the mortars would splash fiends but he did too much hit&run, I blame that lose on my bad early game, i dont know how but for some reason my archmage got stuck in my base, might be because of my arcanne tower position, so i had to waste a TP directly, it wasnt that important in the game itself but just bad for my mind i guess. Then a mercenary got killed and he made a pretty good harass.

After that i didnt think i was winning ever, but thought i had a shot ofcourse.

About the badmannered chat with TeRRoR we both had harsh words yeah, but in the last day we ended up talking friendly and having fun together at the club, so i'm pretty sure things are better between me and him now. We didn't talk any further about the tournament but about other things.

I think he knows i'm sorry for him being eliminated of the tournament, but i dont make the rules nor asked to play last vs HasuObs, i just played when i was told to by the admins, this is one of the rare tournaments where i didnt complain a single time about the rules or conditions, or at least not that i can remember.

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#57 15.05.2008, 11:30
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#56

I don't wanna be rude but it just came out that you acted like a little bitch with your words and even if you said "sorry" that doesn't change a thing (especialy words about fammily...)

About the games, I think your explanation is bullshit but hey, nobody can't deny it...

To end this, next time admins should follow the rules and there will be no more problems like that.
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#58 15.05.2008, 11:46
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#56 I actually do not know if TeRRoR truly knows you are sorry and are you actually sorry. I just know i am sorry i rooted for you during my whole 4 years of playing human. Lost my whole respect for 4k.tod, mouz.tod and so on; n/c now im outta here, least u guys know that he really behaved like this.
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#59 15.05.2008, 14:27
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Relax man, its not so bad mannered like you believe. It just happened, let it be and cheers for Tod like you did before KODE5.
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#60 15.05.2008, 21:21

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#56 Takes reall man to come forward and tell the thruth. Thanks for making things clear. Will always be a one of my fav players imo. Gl in future man.
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