new sorc spell..

ChillPill · 12th Jun 2006, 10:35 CEST

I recently got into the habit of copying Moon's strat of buying a Wand of Illlusion at the Merchant Shop on Echo Isles to confuse my enemy. As a HU player, it hit me-- why isn't this a Sorceress spell? It seems like it's the next, natural progression on their spell training track after Invisibility. Sorceress strike me as spellcasters that specialize in stealth, misdirection and confusion. If they can make you disappear, shouldn't they be able to create mirages of you?

I say make this their Master Training over Polymorph. Poly is hardly ever used anyway; I suspect because it costs too much and can easily be dispelled and doesn't work on heroes like Cyclone. Most HUs research Master Training only so it can give them the extra mana to cast another shot of Invis when needed, like to cloak a massive air army.

Is this imba, you think? I think if the cost is right, and if you can maybe Dispel/Abolish/Disenchant the illusions (well, not sure about this), maybe it's a better alternative to Poly. Just a suggestion... ;P

masaa · 12th Jun 2006, 11:03 CEST

Wand of Illusin has 3 reloads, if you have 10 sorcress you could copy like 2x 10 knights, then you fight with 10real knights and 20 Illusions.. would be pretty imba. Because enemy would need all his mana to dispell the illusions and would get raped while doing so.
I'am Human and if I have enough expos I use polymorph, it's pretty effictive against Orc's.

diG1tY · 12th Jun 2006, 11:30 CEST

#1 xx 5 wisps away from GG

ChillPill · 12th Jun 2006, 11:36 CEST

That was my first thought too, maasa. It's a good point.

I think there are ways to make it reasonable, though. Maybe you can use Dust of Appearance, Shades, Sentry Wards, Gyros, etc. to reveal it-- stuff that doesn't work on the Blademaster's Mirror Image or the current Wand of Illusion. That, and all the races use dispel-type spells anyway to neutralize the Sorceress' Slow, and since these spells-- Devour Magic, Disenchant, Dispel and Detonate-- are AoE, the mana wouldn't be for naught.

Asuka · 13th Jun 2006, 17:37 CEST

It would be worth it just for the newbies to say WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

When I come in his base with 30 AMs ^^

MyWa · 13th Jun 2006, 20:08 CEST

agree with Asuka

icyF · 13th Jun 2006, 21:43 CEST

I think this would be a bad substitute for the polymorph spell. Because with a spell like this a dispell would be a must. And as you said in #3, "all the races use dispel-type spells anyway to neutralize the Sorceress' Slow", wouldnt say that everyone does... I dont, and I play orc.

ChillPill · 14th Jun 2006, 16:49 CEST

@Asuka: lol.. So imba, huh? Even with detection? Actually, what occured to me is that even though you can tell they are illusions, gosus would use them too surround and block real units... Yeah, bad idea.. Delete thread please..

Dectilon · 15th Jun 2006, 18:19 CEST

That wouldn't even be funny ~~ You could even imagine invizing your own troops and copying it. He wouldn't know it was a bunch of illusions until you're hacking away at his back line

Go SC power!

technics · 16th Jun 2006, 14:32 CEST

"It would be worth it just for the newbies to say WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF"

hehehe ^D^

BasHi · 25th Jul 2006, 19:20 CEST

I'd rather keep polymorph, not because i use it, but the ability to turn units into critters are just hilarious!

Samael · 26th Jul 2006, 02:42 CEST

Just name 'em Templars and give sorcs the illusions and the Psi-storm and 2 sorcs form one Archon!

And change the model to the protoss one

Starcraft figures are so handsome

Reaver- · 26th Jul 2006, 23:13 CEST

yeah but if we do that we're gonna need dark templars which are pretty imba if you dont have a sentry ward or reavel ^_^

27th Jul 2006, 01:17 CEST

lol @ 12...dt ftw

SweeTRaiN · 27th Jul 2006, 04:57 CEST

x) lal x)³

Reaver- · 28th Jul 2006, 20:34 CEST

fast tech to a mass dt rush gg

13th Jun 2006, 17:37 CEST	#5
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13th Jun 2006, 21:43 CEST	#7
icyF Adequate Citizen Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 470	I think this would be a bad substitute for the polymorph spell. Because with a spell like this a dispell would be a must. And as you said in #3, "all the races use dispel-type spells anyway to neutralize the Sorceress' Slow", wouldnt say that everyone does... I dont, and I play orc. __________________ How do you do, my name is Trouble.

15th Jun 2006, 18:19 CEST	#9
Dectilon ESNation Newbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 20	That wouldn't even be funny ~~ You could even imagine invizing your own troops and copying it. He wouldn't know it was a bunch of illusions until you're hacking away at his back line Go SC power! __________________ Suprise and Terror!

26th Jul 2006, 02:42 CEST	#12
Samael Citizen Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 166	Just name 'em Templars and give sorcs the illusions and the Psi-storm and 2 sorcs form one Archon! And change the model to the protoss one Starcraft figures are so handsome __________________ "Cowards die many times before their deaths." - W. S.

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12th Jun 2006, 10:35 CEST	#1
ChillPill Citizen Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 174	I recently got into the habit of copying Moon's strat of buying a Wand of Illlusion at the Merchant Shop on Echo Isles to confuse my enemy. As a HU player, it hit me-- why isn't this a Sorceress spell? It seems like it's the next, natural progression on their spell training track after Invisibility. Sorceress strike me as spellcasters that specialize in stealth, misdirection and confusion. If they can make you disappear, shouldn't they be able to create mirages of you? I say make this their Master Training over Polymorph. Poly is hardly ever used anyway; I suspect because it costs too much and can easily be dispelled and doesn't work on heroes like Cyclone. Most HUs research Master Training only so it can give them the extra mana to cast another shot of Invis when needed, like to cloak a massive air army. Is this imba, you think? I think if the cost is right, and if you can maybe Dispel/Abolish/Disenchant the illusions (well, not sure about this), maybe it's a better alternative to Poly. Just a suggestion... ;P

12th Jun 2006, 11:03 CEST	#2
masaa Junior Citizen Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 65	Wand of Illusin has 3 reloads, if you have 10 sorcress you could copy like 2x 10 knights, then you fight with 10real knights and 20 Illusions.. would be pretty imba. Because enemy would need all his mana to dispell the illusions and would get raped while doing so. I'am Human and if I have enough expos I use polymorph, it's pretty effictive against Orc's.

12th Jun 2006, 11:30 CEST	#3
diG1tY Citizen Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 168	#1 xx 5 wisps away from GG __________________ http://www.id-petrov.com

12th Jun 2006, 11:36 CEST	#4
ChillPill Citizen Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 174	That was my first thought too, maasa. It's a good point. I think there are ways to make it reasonable, though. Maybe you can use Dust of Appearance, Shades, Sentry Wards, Gyros, etc. to reveal it-- stuff that doesn't work on the Blademaster's Mirror Image or the current Wand of Illusion. That, and all the races use dispel-type spells anyway to neutralize the Sorceress' Slow, and since these spells-- Devour Magic, Disenchant, Dispel and Detonate-- are AoE, the mana wouldn't be for naught.

13th Jun 2006, 20:08 CEST	#6
MyWa Citizen Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 0	agree with Asuka

14th Jun 2006, 16:49 CEST	#8
ChillPill Citizen Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 174	@Asuka: lol.. So imba, huh? Even with detection? Actually, what occured to me is that even though you can tell they are illusions, gosus would use them too surround and block real units... Yeah, bad idea.. Delete thread please..

16th Jun 2006, 14:32 CEST	#10
technics Adequate Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 309	"It would be worth it just for the newbies to say WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF" hehehe ^D^

25th Jul 2006, 19:20 CEST	#11
BasHi Junior Citizen Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 53	I'd rather keep polymorph, not because i use it, but the ability to turn units into critters are just hilarious!

26th Jul 2006, 23:13 CEST	#13
Reaver- Newbie Citizen Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3	yeah but if we do that we're gonna need dark templars which are pretty imba if you dont have a sentry ward or reavel ^_^

27th Jul 2006, 01:17 CEST	#14
Guest Posts: n/a	lol @ 12...dt ftw

27th Jul 2006, 04:57 CEST	#15
SweeTRaiN Newbie Citizen Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1	x) lal x)³

28th Jul 2006, 20:34 CEST	#16
Reaver- Newbie Citizen Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3	fast tech to a mass dt rush gg

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