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30th August 2007, 23:05

SC2 - Online petition

jim, kerrigan, petition, raynor, sarah

Michel de Nostredame (aka Nostradamus) , "was a French apothecary and reputed seer who published collections of prophecies that have since become famous world-wide". He was something more than a cheap fortune-teller ...but despite his great talent he failed to predict StarCraft 2. It is not like that StarCraft is going to bring havoc and destruction to the world, but it is almost sure the game will put a swift end to some of the major names in the business.

From StarCraft2.com

Featuring a unique single-player campaign that picks up where StarCraft: Brood War left off, StarCraft II will present a cast of new heroes and familiar faces in an edgy sci-fi story filled with adventure and intrigue. In addition, Blizzard will again offer unparalleled online play through Battle.net, the company's world-renowned gaming service, with several enhancements and new features to make StarCraft II the ultimate competitive real-time strategy game.WeWe

We have witnessed StarCraft:Broodwar rule the E-sport scene for almost a decade. But a new era is upon us ...the game that have brought so many fans countless of hours of joy and thrill is soon to experience a metamorphosis. Enhanced 3D graphics, fancy new engine and a lot more. Fans offered the chance to play the alpha often turn back to StarCraft 2 with "StarCraft 1.5". But the truth is that eventhough Multi-Player is what turns a couple of CDs into a bestseller, StarCraft wouldn't have touched the hearts of all those hardcore fans if it wasn't the ingame story. And what would've been StarCraft without Sarah Kerrigan or Jim Raynor ? The fact is that it was those very characters who managed to ensnare the public and have become part of the SC universe.

But is it now when Blizzard, who have aways done perfect job, are actually forgetting of their legacy... Fans will not accept some random new guy who has inherited the name of the charming bald guy (who seems to have solved his hair problem in SC2) who doesn't sound even close to the original Raynor. The truth is that the StarCraft community, has the power to choose what they are going to listen for the next 10 years.

Blizzplanet have started a crusade in the name of that what is sacred to the SC fans:

Game Developers share our passion for games, and have the freedom to create mind-boggling storylines, and to take decisions concerning gameplay and unit balance. However, ultimately fans have supported Blizzard Entertainment with feedback via closed betas and open betas to help balance gameplay. The game is as much developed by Blizzard as it is developed by the volunteer fans who share suggestions and feedback.

Fans decide with the power of their money, and interest in the game if a company reaches the top of sales, or if it sinks. A very important factor in Starcraft and its expansion Brood War was the storyline of the game, its characters, and the voice actors. A voice actor needs to be talented and convincing. Sarah Kerrigan, and Jim Raynor became iconic characters to fans of Starcraft and Brood War.

We have grown emotionally attached to both characters and their voice actors for nearly ten years, either playing the single player or UMS Maps in Multiplayer, clicking the hero units and listening to their voices. They have been with us in User-Map Settings, Custom Map Campaigns and Mods. But what would happen if Starcraft II introduced new voice actors for Kerrigan, and Jim Raynor? What would happen if one day after a decade Homer Simpson and Bart Simpson's voices were someone else's? Would it feel the same?

Would it be the same to watch the next and last two chapters of Harry Potter without Emma Watson (Hermione), Daniel Radcliffe (Harry Potter) and Rupert Grint (Ron)? Would it have felt the same to have Elijah Wood on Chapter one and two of the Lord of the Rings, and suddenly get smacked with a different actor on the third film?

You can sign an online petition to bring back the original voice-overs for Jim Raynor and Sarah Kerrigan.


Source - Blizzplanet.com
 
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(last year)  #1 Snotty
 
Okay class, next time we are going to learn about Charles Dickens. Big test next week.
"I pick my nose, therefore I am"
(last year)  #2 AnimositY
 
People need to use their time better....
(last year)  #3 Xenior
 
pointless
(last year)  #4 Dendra
Dendra
they never made bw we know today, but they are making sc2, live with it. if you want skill and bw feeling then be sure that sc:bw won't go anywhere for another decade ;;
If force won't work, use greater force.
(last year)  #5 mephiztopheles
mephiztopheles
wow, some1 actually makes news about this....
if at first you dont succeed, erase any trace that you tried
(last year)  #6 verGe_desRow
verGe_desRow
such a waste of time
IN THA BUTT ?!?!
(last year)  #7 Physician
Physician
firstly - regardless of what I say next nicely written and it is really healthy that varied subjects are fed into the mym sc machine..

"StarCraft wouldn't have touched the hearts of all those hardcore fans if it wasn't the ingame story."

For many it is like that.. but though I don't want to be labeled a heretic - I personally never gave a flying phuck about the story line etc..

Even when I first played the first campaign I would esc all the intro screens and all the story telling parts.. for me it has always been a pure rts ~

but yeah I would prefer if they kept the same voices..
(last year)  #8 Kurdran
 
Such a huge intro for such a pointless topic....
Fix your beards dwarves, its time to battle
(last year)  #9 nvck
 
leave Hermione out of this thx
(last year)  #10 vhallee
vhallee
im not saying they should definitely bring back the old voices, but most of the new voices suck :( and i mean especially the ones from protoss :/
I'll be nicer when you're smarter.
(last year)  #11 GG-Ms
GG-Ms
Quoting vhallee:

im not saying they should definitely bring back the old voices, but most of the new voices suck :( and i mean especially the ones from protoss :/

I remember the old voices were not that bad...
Sarah's voice was pretty good :P

How do you know the new voices suck btw? ~~
Last edited by GG-Ms at 31.08.2007, 08:44

Why are you reading this? ~~
(last year)  #12 GG-MaRs
GG-MaRs
shocked -__-
i guess i need to improve my general knowledge...

Im happy as long as they have bnet and lan mode for pure rts

visit www.gg-game.com for low latency gaming!
(last year)  #13 Kiva
 
I care more about the storyline than the voices. And to tell you the truth ... i don't remember them :P So whatever. Btw Raynor looks quite sexy and i don't think any change of his appearance is necessary :P
(last year)  #14 Arew
Arew
#1 rofl =]]
(last year)  #15 The1Crow
The1Crow
Well, all the hardcore and longtime SC Fans don't think that this petition is pointless :)
Some ppl come into our lives and quickly go. Some stay ever!
(last year)  #16 Snotty
 
Well this is a clan site so not that I expect someone to care...but on the other hand this is a news site also so ...those are the news.

Personally I care almost the same about the single-player and the multi-player. StarCraft would've sucked ass without its trilling plot.

"I pick my nose, therefore I am"
(last year)  #17 LaughingSkull
LaughingSkull
This is extremely capricious... -_-
Give away the stone...
(last year)  #18 vhallee
vhallee
Quoting GG-Ms:

Quoting vhallee:im not saying they should definitely bring back the old voices, but most of the new voices suck :( and i mean especially the ones from protoss :/
I remember the old voices were not that bad...
Sarah's voice was pretty good :P

How do you know the new voices suck btw? ~~

well i have listened to them :P

I'll be nicer when you're smarter.
(last year)  #19 oX
 
ooo, nice news or so :p
(last year)  #20 Snotty
 
The petition is only about Sarah and Raynor's voice-overs, but I agree some of the other unit voices suck. Take the Immortal or the Warp Rey for example ...their voices can make me sleep in 2 mins max
Last edited by Snotty at 31.08.2007, 12:26

"I pick my nose, therefore I am"
(last year)  #21 kulik
kulik
i would sign some pettion which will guranted me that sc2 will be seeable , not that in limit battle u will not be able to find scv
www.cybermachines.cz
(last year)  #22 Nordahl
Nordahl
Haha this brings a smile to my face, but I guess it is nice that people care enough to do this.
I line up my hair perfectly!
(last year)  #23 Arkhan
 
lol pointless

it would be better to worry about graphics AND voices style

ok graphics is not that important, but they are doing sc2 with cartoonish style like they did in wow, while it would be much better to have a serious graphics, not all fat, round and cartoonish guys and units...
(last year)  #24 Dendra
Dendra
that is true, round and fat takes up your whole screen :D but hey guess people, cough spoiled rich brats cough, need uber graphics.

same goes for voices, i got used to the raynor's/kerrigan's/duke edmond/etc. voices, but it seems that the number of people that care about such voices and the number of new little rich vampyres thirsty to exploit uber pcs their daddies bought them are far from same.

nobody listens to you :) money makes the world go round round round, lalala :D

if the gaming industry has crippled every possible game due to the demands of sponsors and even pc industry that obviusly simply loves games that demand high configuration so that people can waste more money what makes you so surprised that sc2 is yet another cripple? :)) i simply cant remove the smile from my face since i am and will be supporter of games from time when gameplay meant something (example homm series, game is unique and only thing they ever did to it was changing graphics)

If force won't work, use greater force.
(last year)  #25 toCuws
 
#24, we freaking get that you're a gosu hardcore sc:bw fan and that you hate sc2 by now. Frankly, just shut up about it.

And what's this nonsensical rambling about rich kids? It's not everyone else's fault if you have a bad pc.
(last year)  #26 Dendra
Dendra
not really, it's not about being fan of sc, it's about OBVIUS path to domination of graphics over gameplay in pc games where sponsors and spoiled people with unused power of their pcs dictate how the games should be made, some people want classics like this case of old voices, some people want intensive gameplay over fancy graphics...and if you want to know what im a true fan of then it's Hicham El Guerrouj and Haile Gebrselassie, these two names are worth the respect more than the whole e-sports thing together, hence i will always admire them.

all i see for the past few years is games turning into competition which one will look nicer and more attractive to the eyes of hungry customers, natural course? ok, i can live it with it but that sure ain't gonna stop me from repeating over and over again that old games such as chess, bw, tetris, name what you want, simply don't depend on graphics - can you say the same for newest fps shooters? can you say the same for wc3 which will be replaced by a nicer 3D rts, it's as simple as it is with cars - fast cars get replaced with faster cars, pretty games get replaced by prettier ones, only thing that remains are the games that never conquered the world thanks to their looks.

on a side note, i don't hate sc2 any more than i hated avp2, simply because avp1 was 10times better and had the element of fear its sequel never had - homm4 looked hillarious compared to homm3 but i still played it, same goes for avp2, same will go for sc2, as it happened with all games in time you get bored with them, some people play wc3 for years, it's a testimony to its quality, some play sc for a decade, problem is sc2 is drawing attention mostly of these "buy me the fastest car" type people, once a nicer 3D rts comes sc2 will be replaced like an old dinosaur.

If force won't work, use greater force.
(last year)  #27 Arkhan
 
lol not this again pls

i agree with most of what u say but how can u say that in wc3 graphics go over gameplay lol

and how can u say it of sc2...im 100% sure they arent making the usual stupid rts good of graphics and crappy in depth, how can u think such a thing
(last year)  #28 Dendra
Dendra
hmm, i have seen dozens of videos of sc2, i have sadly felt the narrownes of wc3 which limits creativity of people to perhaps 1% of what bw has, 2v2 comes down to learning combos and all games come down to imba micro. had i once felt the possibility of doing a fake build in style of sc i'd say it is worthy of comparison with bw.

on a side note, wc3 is probably the last thing in rts that still kept good old gameplay, everything afterwards just keeps on tumbling deeper and deeper(red alert2, c&c3, etc.). sc2 looks like a movie, explosions and lasers all over the place, overview not comparable to the one 2D offers, it's a handicap, perhaps 3D gamers might not see it as they are used to sloppy units reaction time (example dark templar becoming demon hunter, many have complained about it). when you look at the people that cant wait for sc2 sadly most of them said "wow, looks just like a movie", the 1% of customers aka hardcore gamers dont get a vote, you think blizzard can, for example, dodge the rock-paper-scissor trap in which wc3 has fallen, already they are making strict rules this unit countering that unit, also they have totally messed up the air-ground balance of units, they have to fix that Alot.

they keep giving diplomatic answers and results show something different, in the end they will release sc2, get bunch of critics and make a sequel that might actually be good (something like starcraft and brood war thing whereas sc vanilla has problems with balance between races).

when will wc3 be good as sc? when humans dominate all races, then undead dominate all races, then orcs and so on in a circle, as long as the game depends more on the game itself rather than the gamers it will not be what bw is. nightelves are pure imba with bears+dryads, as it seems blizzard is fixing the dryads problem but nevermind.

what im saying is that wc3 forces certain limit to the creativity of the players, people rarely do tricks on their own, it's mostly still using what the game itself offers, stunts like that one moon did with zeppelin were looked upon as work of god, in sc such ideas were looked upon in that way...hmm long ago? nowadays people are forced to go beyond that point. tricks like the one when a progamer convinced another progamer that he did a fast expansion (by sending workers to the minerals on the expansion and he didnt have a command center there) are something wc3 simply cant and probably never will succeed because the game limits players, i could count for literally hours examples of strategies that work in wc3 and simply can/can't work in sc due to the amazing flexibility of the game. in 10years of maximum dedication to the game even today we still get amazed by the progamers, we still invent new tricks and stuff.

with that said i feel sc2 is making progress in that aspect, even though they are still the same old blind sheep thinking that bw is so creative because of the game itself, they are making units flexible enough to offer alot of variations to the players. it will take some time before every aspect of the game is exploited and they are counting on it. by that time they will make an expansion and add new options for the players to use which will increase the number of variations in a build order,strategy or whatever.

that is something almost everyone keeps missing, the key why sc is so bloody good, what keeps wc3 alive? adding new items, new heroes...follow the pattern and you will notice what im saying is true, gamers dont invent stuff, they use stuff being added to the game, i mean yes they do invent but thats not comparable to the ammount of creativity sc players have shown over the years because they played and still play same old game with same old everything (even the patches are same ever since they modified price for some buildings, etc.) you may not like my opinion, i do think wc3 is a great game as it is until now unmatched 3D rts when it comes to gameplay but that doesnt mean i cant feel what it's missing and what will eventually cause it's end.

-you might not see it so clearly in case of wc3-sc, so take a look at wow - how do they keep their players addicted to the game? they add new levels, new skills, new instances, etc., they did the same thing in wc3 and probably will do some more if they want to keep the players.

If force won't work, use greater force.
(last year)  #29 Snotty
 
okay ... can all of you pls stfu now, just go to forums . If you are not going to comment the news just stop spamming.

I don't mind people discussing SC2, but do I need to remind you all that this is not the place.
Last edited by Snotty at 31.08.2007, 19:21

"I pick my nose, therefore I am"
(last year)  #30 Kurdran
 
#24 u are one of those retarded that thinks that video game industry was perfect just with the pong release???

Get serious, world changes, business change...u obviously dont know anything about business u think brood war could have been made without some other games beeing left behind. Take some time to think and ask yourself.....would u like to be playing warcraft orcs & humans till now.....stop dreaming, blizzard needs to move on, all industries need to move on, or are u gonna give them profits while you keep flaming sc2? Wake up dude, srry to burst your bubble but all companies need profits, blizzard isnt the exception.

On topic.....ofc u might feel nostalgic about the old voices, but get serious, after a month playing u wont even tell the diference. Thing is that u keep saying sc2 might not be4 as good just cuz its changing, voices wont amke a huge difference after a month or two playing, believe me.
Last edited by Kurdran at 31.08.2007, 19:25

Fix your beards dwarves, its time to battle
(last year)  #31 Kurdran
 
double
Last edited by Kurdran at 31.08.2007, 19:27

Fix your beards dwarves, its time to battle
(last year)  #32 LaughingSkull
LaughingSkull
honestly guys, get a grip. It's been ten years now. Why are you so damn ultraconservative about irrelevant issues such as voices/the looks of jim raynor/graphics?!
Give away the stone...
(last year)  #33 Dendra
Dendra
#30 and that is why e-sports will never be close to sports :) word sports is getting overused come to think of it :) nvm, back to the super interesting topic "will raynor's voice stay or will it not"; stay tuned because this is the thing you wanna know before the world collapses.
If force won't work, use greater force.
(last year)  #34 toCuws
 
Dendra I don't think you got my point, so I'll restate it: "Shut up about what you think about sc2. No one cares, and if they do then I'm pretty sure they already know where you stand"

Once there is a news entitled "Just in: Dendra hates sc2", then you may reply in you long winded manner about how super awesome sc is and how much the pre-alpha game sc2 sucks.
(last year)  #35 Fayspire
Fayspire
When StarCraft II comes out to our shops? On christmas?

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