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09th July 2007, 18:05

MYM and MIStrZZZ go separate ways

carnac, giga2, koth, maphack, mistrzzz, the1crow

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Earlier this afternoon our StarCraft Supervisor Germany The1Crow reported already about the following issue:

He is the current MYM KOTH powered by GIGA 2: Poland LRM)MIStrZZZ! He is standing on the Hill since five weeks now, and showed some great performances. But lately, a couple of replays of him showed some actions that were considered as hack by some parts of the community - the man from Poland is accused of maphack.

First we decided - maybe too fast - not to ban him from the Hill but give him a chance to show that he doesn't hack with recording FPVODs. For now, after a further discussion with the MYM KOTH Admin, MIStrZZZ steps down from his throne as MYM's KOTH until he is able to be proven not guilty. We make this decision not only because of the following people saying "he hacks" but in order to keep this situation calm. We have reviewed the replays and might have seen many "suspicious actions" but is that really enough proof to show that he hacks? We will keep reviewing his replays, and be in very close contact with WGTour's Cheater Section team on this. MeetYourMakers and MIStrZZZ will go separate ways. This weeke ToT)Hullah( will fight again in the MYM KOTH powered by GIGA 2 against a new opponent.

Further we had the chance to receive a comment from the dedicated TeamLiquid.net Admin Germany Carnac about this issue:

Germany Carnac from TeamLiquid

"The times of 100% hack proofs have been over for a while now, ever since maphackers can't click on anything they should not be able to see you cannot prove their guilt with BWChart anymore. Not to mention that "smart maphckers" only turn on the hack for a few seconds so that they don't appear all knowing about what is going on in the game. So unless they confess (and they never do) or you catch them using maphack while you're standing directly behind them you will never have 100% proof.

The sheer amount of extremely suspicious action in MIstrZZZ's play that we have witnessed in his replays lately is simply as close as we can ever get to prove someone is hacking nowadays. When the first replays of MIstrZZZ supposedly hacking (vs TT1 and Shaman) were spread I already had my doubts about him being legit, but I wasn't fully convinced myself, but with the latest replay of MIstrZZZ vs Hullah I am now certain that he hacks beyond any reasonable doubt. Yes, players sometimes get lucky, so do I, but not that lucky.
The "proof" or whatever you may want to call it nowadays is certainly good enough for me to ban him from all leagues, tournaments and acitivies whatsoever. And personally if I was a really good player I would simply refuse to play vs. MIstrZZZ, because it may be the only way he will learn."


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(last year)  #1 WGT-StarS
WGT-StarS
Sorry MIStrZZZ ~_~
(last year)  #2 MIStrZZZ
 
no sorry, this topic was made becuase ppl didn't want to play against me thats all
carmac is the worst admin from tlt and the one who is the most stupid - he hates me because of nothing
and, I was banned on TLT because of that I "hacked"

and actually the proofs of me hacking is like
I made 4 gate goons vs TT1 and he didnt go dts ........ so if u still think that I hack u M U S T be retarded
Last edited by MIStrZZZ at 09.07.2007, 18:20

~The Legendary Protoss
(last year)  #3 excello_DetO
excello_DetO
finally he been caught. cant believe it took this long o,o
(last year)  #4 MIStrZZZ
 
This comment has been deactivated by the admin crew due to its content.
(last year)  #5 Carnac
 
Your attitude is really gonna help you...
Our Mecca is called Wacken.
(last year)  #6 MIStrZZZ
 
This comment has been deactivated by the admin crew due to its content.
(last year)  #7 Carnac
 
Like anyone cares what you "guess".

The fact is - even a lot of Polish players think that you hack and are bad mannered to the bone, that says enough, because they are very "loyal" towards their players.

Our Mecca is called Wacken.
(last year)  #8 excello_DetO
excello_DetO
you are caught. face it o,o
(last year)  #9 MIStrZZZ
 
This comment has been deactivated by the admin crew due to its content.
(last year)  #10 MIStrZZZ
 
I said that I won't play because the1crow said that he cant find opponent to me, since nobody want to play vs "hacker"
Last edited by The1Crow at 09.07.2007, 18:36

~The Legendary Protoss
(last year)  #11 imported_Dagger
imported_Dagger
mistrzzz is just a poor kiddie, not man enough to say he hacked and just flaming
I am not sad about this end

good decision by MYM =)

Better stand up and fight!
(last year)  #12 excello_DetO
excello_DetO
im not really referring to only this topic, but all of them, specially the tl.net one ~~
(last year)  #13 MIStrZZZ
 
yes u r both ****, (*****) to think that I really didnt hack, and IT WAS NOT DECISION OF MYM, IT WAS DECISION OF MINE, BECAUSE THE1CROW COULDNT FIND OPPONETN FOR ME ******
Last edited by The1Crow at 09.07.2007, 19:10

~The Legendary Protoss
(last year)  #14 Dendra
Dendra
:smiles at the circus
If force won't work, use greater force.
(last year)  #15 CryMeAReaver
CryMeAReaver
What MistrZZZ says is true. (at least in this case)
(last year)  #16 Carnac
 
Of course. No one wants to play a hacker....
Our Mecca is called Wacken.
(last year)  #17 Snotty
 
WoW the crowd is hungry for "hackers" .... It's like okay this looks strange ...guess he's a hacker.
"I pick my nose, therefore I am"
(last year)  #18 Moule
Moule
T_T
http://www.FragDominant.com/ QuakeNet: #FragDominant
(last year)  #19 TobiasL
 
You are nothing but a hacker, and it's obvious to everyone, MiStrZZZ. I'm just waiting for someone to find evidence against your fellow LRM members. Quite sure there are several black sheep in that team. -.-
(last year)  #20 Jockan
 
how can evrybody be so sure?
Last edited by Jockan at 09.07.2007, 21:54
(last year)  #21 kasda
 
Quoting Moule:

T_T
(last year)  #22 NacktNasenWombi
 
quite a shame for BW-Comm to c so many "good" players (or newcomers?) like MistrZZZ and s.oo hacking T_T
(last year)  #23 Dendra
Dendra
who said he hacks :) it's all speculations, dont mix one rotten apple with the rest of the gang until some real evidence is found, you people should be ashamed of yourselves.
If force won't work, use greater force.
(last year)  #24 BlindObS
 
I hate mistrzz but in this case im nearly 100% sure that hes innocent. He's acheivments from polish lans are just too big, or he was hackin in lan parties ?? :P
(last year)  #25 CryMeAReaver
CryMeAReaver
LoL so anyone who had some good lan results cant hack.

MAN We really need an anti-hack programm.
(last year)  #26 The1Crow
The1Crow
Yop, Ashur and Blizzard should meet one table... dream... ;o
Some ppl come into our lives and quickly go. Some stay ever!
(last year)  #27 Carnac
 
Quoting Dendra:

who said he hacks :) it's all speculations, dont mix one rotten apple with the rest of the gang until some real evidence is found, you people should be ashamed of yourselves.
It's a lot more than just speculation...

Our Mecca is called Wacken.
(last year)  #28 PPavo
PPavo
It is speculation... Really, how could he loose to anyone if he's so good at lan parties? He would be uber-gosu while using hack...
myMYM.com Polish scene editor
(last year)  #29 Dendra
Dendra
also its funny how when you have PP people think you dont hack...doh! if a hacker wants to hack he can do it no matter what, you think people didnt hack while PP was here? even ashur said he can use hacks as it's so easy and you cant discover it no way no how
If force won't work, use greater force.
(last year)  #30 karfussen
 
everyone could have used hacks, so everyone should get banned?
(last year)  #31 ToTKaiSeR
 
u can use hack with pp but with replay saved under pp u have 100% proof with watching rep in first person o.o
(last year)  #32 Dendra
Dendra
Quoting MgZKaiSeR:

u can use hack with pp but with replay saved under pp u have 100% proof with watching rep in first person o.o

actually that fpreplay thing wasnt quite correct, sometimes i watch a replay and vision is on a supply even though at that moment i was microing mutas 10cm below :P

If force won't work, use greater force.
(last year)  #33 vhallee
vhallee
the lack of an anti hack program is tearing the community apart... blizzard should reconsider its policy concerning 3rd party programs, because stuff like this happening at a high level are embarrassing so say the least...
I'll be nicer when you're smarter.
(last year)  #34 CryMeAReaver
CryMeAReaver
http://sc.gosugamers.net/thread/131341/180#132631


If you can explain this we can all start hacking now because we cant ban hackers anymore.
(last year)  #35 CoL_Drake
 
he is cheater 4 100% so good decision

and yes mistrzzz no one will play vs hackers -_-
Last edited by CoL_Drake at 10.07.2007, 13:10
(last year)  #36 seltorn
seltorn
Not guilty until PROVEN otherwise. So far there were no legit proofs, only slanders produced by envious retards.

Whatever I think of MistrzZZZ as a human (on the other hand most of you are equal or even bigger retards), he goddamn proven his skills offline arleady. Hes no kind of online-only-master. So whats the fuss?

Well, we had pretty similar situation few months ago and whole case suddenly "disappeared", well maybe becouse that guy was someone's friend? Think.

say twice say twice
(last year)  #37 Dendra
Dendra
1st i think it is very lame that people abuse such topics to flame each other.
2nd there has been no hardcore evidence and i believe they should've allowed mistrzzz to play and make pov of every game he plays in koth ggsl or whatever, that way he'd have proof he didnt hack no matter the suspicious or not suspicious actions he did in games.

If force won't work, use greater force.
(last year)  #38 AofPsilentone
 
mistrzzz is biggest sc clown. even if he didint hacked his ugly face is enough punishment for him o.O;;
(last year)  #39 rodallego
 
This comment has been deactivated by the admin crew due to its content.
(last year)  #40 drifting
drifting
i cant understand how some of mistrzzzs comments here got nuked while other really offensive and bad mannered ones still remain unharmed (like #11, #38, #39)

sad that some people decided that they got enough evidence to justify a ban already, coz i really like the guy (mistrzzz). not just for his games - ok that move vs hullah was extremely suspicious - but most of all for his attitude of not licking everyones balls. no he didnt show bad manner like flaming others, at least i never saw it. but his comments were really funny and entertaining and i liked that he managed to piss so many ppl off with nothing at all^^

ye, this is a shame for our community. its a shame that there are too many hackers and that we cant prove them guilty, its a shame that ppl are not capable of finding the right words or better say nothing instead. a lot of bandwagoning going on... regardless of he hacked or not, the actions of some ppl here (and at other websites) are way off the line.

God loves stupid people. That's why he made so many.
(last year)  #41 Ton4ef
 
Can some1 give me the replays vs hullah..

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