Quoting iLLeR:

Gotta love guys like him :) just because MYM doesn't have anymore money to keep their WC3 players they think "dota won" and "wc3 dies" :). As said a thousand times in here already, wc3 is now bigger then it has ever been, there has already been 3 major wc3 tournaments in 2009 (btw how many there has been in dota?). We have lived barely a month out of 2009 and the calendar is stacked with wc3 tournaments (btw where are all the dota tournaments?). In 2008 there was more tournaments than ever before and it seems like in 2009 there will be even more. So could someone of you with the inside info please tell me where is the part where wc3 dies? Why do you think WeMadeFox would waste 16 000 €/month on Moon to play a dead game? If you haven't still understood, MYM ran out of money, they ditched their expensive wc3 squad and kept the dota squad (which is free). They can't say this (because it would be bad marketing) so they have to call it "change of focus" or "change of strategy" :)

Quoting psycho_hatred:

We can say that team leagues for wc3 are dead. Let us look forward to more one on one leagues this is what wc3 really is.

As for wc3 vs dota. Id be a hypocrite if Id say that dota > wc3 or the other way around. I play both and I understand, although not like a pro, but enough to know that these 2 "games" are different. I played dota competitively a few years back and played on local offline leagues but now just for fun. I also joined the wcg qualifiers for wc3 back then, but still play RT in kalimdor for fun.

One who plays wc3 might say that "dota is boring", "dota is just point and click" etc etc. and that wc3 is "the real game and dota is just a map".
True, that wc3 requires a certain level of skill, micro, economy macro etc., that would make dota just like a "part" of wc3 which is the hero controlling part. And I can safely say that people who switch from wc3 to dota, switch because dota is easier to play, and less stressful I might add. Or in other words(some might get angry for this), just plain suck at this game so, switch switch. This partly true as my wc3 friends switched from wc3 to dota because of this. The other part is that dota is more fun, less stress, and easy to play.

wc3 and dota differences:
In dota, the hero has this auto level up "skill", just stay in the lane and wait your side's creep and the other side's kill each other. As for wc3 you need kill the other player's unit while they are microing it to level up. Or go creep hunting while having doubts if you would get caught while creeping or the bm would creep jack you, etc.
In dota, hero skills are usually used to focus on heroes or used in hero killing. In wc3 youd get laughed at if you always focus your attack on a single hero as it would just tp out, heal or get invul, ww etc.
I wont explain others but these are some of the main differences.

Theoretically it is correct that people who are good at wc3 should be good or much better than average people who play dota. but Ive seen people, my friends in particular, who are better than me in wc3 just plainly suck at dota.
Grubby might be a genius at wc3 but might suck at dota. No, im not saying that Grubby is switching or playing dota. What im trying to say here is that, if one plays tennis or w/e since he was little it would take some time for that someone to be better at another game. When I played wc3 at first, my friends criticized/laughed at me, but now im much better than some of them.

Hopefully this closes the case for people. Its no different from comparing SC to CS or w/e game or chess to basketball. it just happened that dota is played using wc3 with almost the same concepts of gameplay.

And all biases aside, if dota would have been developed as a game, it would be highly probable, scratch that, possible that it would enter the e-sport scene, legalities aside(Unreal tournament + Blizzard). But right now(Im saying this coz it might be a game in the future, who knows?) it IS a custom map played competitively and technically wouldnt exist without wc3.

I rarely post and I highly appreciate critics but to flamers and haters, Right back at ya.

Quoting ohcihc:

yeah dota is so great, that's why no tournament organizers pick this game :)
and when there is a dota tournament, no one really cares about it. How much do "pro" dota win ? 30$/month ? LoL there is no money in this game, that's why it's not an esports game.

sc has many legends : boxer, nada, yellow, oov, savior, july, bisu, reach
wc3 has many legends : moon, grubby, tod, sky, fov, lyn
cs has many legends : heaton, potti, spawn, element, xeqtr, ksharp, frod
quake has many legends : cooller, tox, fatal1ty, jibo, stermy

now let's look at dota : LOL, bunch of nonamers wannabe stars. Keep clicking on 1 unit, skilled game really.

Quoting Fookos:

Will MYM still posting news about wc3&SC?

Quoting frozensoul30:

SC fans will move on to SC2