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24th November 2008, 13:40

Video: Grubby meets Kasparov

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WarCraft 3 trio, China Human Xiaofeng 'Sky' Li, Netherlands Orc Manuel 'Grubby' Schenkhuizen and Sweden Undead Fredrik 'MaDFroG' Johansson, are featured in a long-awaited documentary movie called 'Beyond the game'.

This movie had its world premiere at the world's biggest documentary event called International Documentary Film Festival Amsterdam on Friday. The pre-ticket sales is still ongoing and you can purchase them from the links below:

Award winning director Netherlands Jos de Putter, who travelled to eSports events around the globe for this movie, shared previous blog thoughts on the players and the WarCraft 3 scene and how he started to create this movie as a person who didn't know anything about eSports before. He described MYM]Grubby as the "Kasparov of a new generation" (read more about this here).

Now, Grubby had the chance to meet chess ace Garry Kasparov in Amsterdam during the movie premiere of Beyond the game. Netherlands myMYM|Cassandra was there and filmed parts of the talk between the two masterminds:

A film review and pictures by Cassandra will be posted later!

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(last year) #1 The1Crow

It is nice to see how Kasparov is really interested to know as much as possible about the game. Some ppl come into our lives and quickly go. Some stay ever!

(last year) #2 akamatt

Must have been impressiv : D

(last year) #3 Cx\|Golca

kasparov > grubby?

(last year) #4 Phil

I have the utmost respect for Kasparov. His reach goes well beyond his own game, and he really tries to utilize his intellect to its fullest. I'm forever blowing bubbles!

(last year) #5 RiseoO

Who is Garry Kasparov ? oO

(last year) #6 C0DIllidan_demonH

The best chess player ever to existed...

100% Perfection is unachievable, but 99.9% is!

(last year) #7 TheModestMouse

Im a total noob at chess and yet I knew his name ;)

(last year) #35 4KFLeatherface

you dont have to play chess to know Kasparov ;) living legend 4K faiting!!!!!!!!!!!!

(last year) #8 flexity-Dav1oN

What about Kravnik ?

(last year) #9 Shival

Kramnik? ;)

Kasparov > Kramnik definately.

(last year) #11 4KFmatthe

Wasnt kasparow the guy who lost as the first world champion vs a chess computer and he couldnt believe it?

Not swearing on internet? It's against my religion.

(last year) #13 Shival

Yep, but he was just unlucky to be the one at the seat at the time when technology catched up.
Though, Kramnik has also lost vs a chess computer, as have many others following Kasparov's defeat.

Also, I'd like to stress the fact that Kasparov lost vs a supercomputer of which he had no knowledge of it's playstyle while the computer had thousands of Kasparov's games in its database.

(last year) #15 4KFmatthe

I remember how 2 years ago Kramnik played vs the newest chess engine Fritz 10 and he only made 3 ties and 2 losses vs the computer. The commentators at these matches explained the listeners, that the computer had 10 million pro chess matches stored in his data base and so the computer could predict nearly every movement Kramnik did. Just sad that comps >>> hu...

Not swearing on internet? It's against my religion.

(last year) #19 Shival

True enough, but Kramnik had the chance to atleast playtest Deep Fritz 10 for awhile before the match started (quite a few weeks)

Deep Fritz 10 was also worse than Deep Blue in hardware. Deep Blue could calculate 200 million positions per second, while Fritz 10 could 'only' calculate 8 million per second. Softwarewise Fritz is obviously further ahead though, with more matches in its database and more options.

Funfact: Kasparov drew against Fritz 2-2 a year after the Kramnik - Fritz game.

(last year) #22 4KFmatthe

@ Funfact :D Seems like he took his enemy serious this time ;) Not swearing on internet? It's against my religion.

(last year) #42 C0DIllidan_demonH

In one of those 2 loses, right after the loses, Kasparov who comented those games, he made out that in one game Kramnik had the win just didnt see it and in other he had draw with a quality loss but he had enaugh material to form so called fourtress formation that is when u have ur king in middle of table sorounded by ur only remainin figures and u stand to counter ur opp advantige in material... 100% Perfection is unachievable, but 99.9% is!

(last year) #29 manhunter321

what abt viswanathan anand u guys forget abt it?? you will know and recognise me after somtime

(last year) #25 ONe

Bobby fisher > kasparov :D

(last year) #30 manhunter321

viswanathan anand > greater than all currently

you will know and recognise me after somtime

(last year) #32 Shival

Actually, according to the FIDE rating it's Topalov; http://ratings.fide.com/top.phtml?list=men

2803 is Anand his highest rating ever (only 4 players ever reached above 2800).
Highest rating ever achieved is 2851 by Kasparov, aswell as longest continuous stay on the #1 spot ever.

(last year) #43 C0DIllidan_demonH

Kasparov highest rating was 2838 i think...

100% Perfection is unachievable, but 99.9% is!

(last year) #44 Shival

Nope, I'm pretty sure it's 2851 :)

(last year) #46 C0DIllidan_demonH

Yea i checked 2851 was his higest with old calculation formula his next highest was 2838 and since that one he droped to 2812 wich is still his actuall reting now... 100% Perfection is unachievable, but 99.9% is!

(last year) #55 manhunter321

i meant current world champion you will know and recognise me after somtime

(last year) #10 4KFKurail

kasparov ftw! xD Life is a bitch,so fuck her xD//Gaming Royalty//.

(last year) #12 Fenneth

Okay, as both a chess nerd and a war3 nerd this is so awesome I think I might need to go change my pants.

(last year) #40 Elven_Star

LOL!!! Elen sila lumenn omentilmo

(last year) #14 dmZChiLLi

do anyone know kasparov's apm? :d

(last year) #16 4KFmatthe

1 move at 10 mins :D Makes 0.1 apm

Not swearing on internet? It's against my religion.

(last year) #36 4KFLeatherface

i would really like to know he's mind apm xD 4K faiting!!!!!!!!!!!!

(last year) #17 The1Crow

I wonder how good he would be in WC3

Some ppl come into our lives and quickly go. Some stay ever!

(last year) #20 Dectilon

I think he'd be sort of an Axslav. Not the best micro, but insane strategies that seem futile at first and then suddenly works and wins the game : ) Interesting conversation. Too bad much of it is inaudiable. Have you considered to add subtitles or make a transcript? Suprise and Terror!

(last year) #18 imported_ixion

wow..

(last year) #21 GKoOBaKsuZ

Looks like Kasparov did some research on W3 ^^ Interesting video though, Grubby you seemed nervous. PS: The sound is a little bad :/ 4K ALL THE WAY!

(last year) #23 Lun-

really nice and friendly. :D

(last year) #24 Dys

two masterminds =]

(last year) #26 __LoG

Karpov > Kasparov

(last year) #27 4KFXythical

Funny how kasparov always use his hands to explain thing xD

(last year) #31 Shival

That's called Nonverbal communication. Which is completely normal in a conversation. Not using it, is what is funny ;) Though.. Kasparov may seem a bit excessive relative to your average person, but then again he's not average.

P.S. About 60% of communication is nonverbal. (33% is tone and only 7% is spoken words)

(last year) #47 C0DIllidan_demonH

+zillions, -good communication gives up to 80% better results in anything what u do(real life and work) -good organization gives the rest 20% -almost 99% of problems comes out of bad communication or bad translation of communication btween those who communicate exp(diplomacy and bilateral talks, real life ect ect.) -now u can sense Kasparov IQ from his body language... just watch and learn Last edited by Illidan_demonH at 24.11.2008, 21:29 100% Perfection is unachievable, but 99.9% is!

(last year) #28 -MiLKyWaY-

ah, he got to meet Kasparov. :S nice video, and can't wait to see the film review :D something deep?

(last year) #33 lycan

Cool, Kasparov asked if there was any creeping in a match. He knows some things of the game :)

(last year) #34 Udaibe

nice vid. Didn´t think that Grubby and Kasparov would talk so much with each other. But the vid told me something different...

(last year) #37 ZpReDAtor

Ha just watched tv! )) No money in my pocket and a mind full of hate!

(last year) #38 smokes69

Just me or the sound kept dropping through the movie? Funny nonetheless

(last year) #39 seinis

Kasparov talked about wc3 in book of his, which told about managing resources in real life. The quote was sth like "now ill give you an example from the game my son plays... something about wc3" i dont remember the name of the book or the exact quote, my friend whos chessplayer told me.

(last year) #41 C0DIllidan_demonH

Ok Kasparov is the best chess player there was....
When he was young he beat Karpov in one of the most thriling duels, than he beat Anand couple of times and he got the highest rating man ever had, 2851(2838) and he was considered to be the only man who could brake the 3000 limit mark but he quit playing, in 2002 i think he lost his title to Kramnik cos of lack of concentration cos after that he won Linares Vaykanzee and Dortmund tournaments 2 or 3 years in a row beating Kramnik in their famous Berlin wall opening and Anand like he always did,(Kasparov eats Anand for breakfast) the only other chess player who had considerable results with Kasparov was Kramnik but he wasn't better than him...Than Kasparov said it is time to move on to real chess game - politics...
He tries to beat Putin reputation in Russia but with his CIA backup i think russians will never give their votes to him over Putins and he must be very carefull in future...
Never the less Kasparov won one duel with Deep Blue and lost another one with the upgraded version in a very interesting match in witch he won a game or two i think but lost more, other than Kramnik who didnt even won one versus Deep Fritz and nowdays the best player there is, is among bulgarias Topalov, Kramnik and Anand, it is interesting cos Topalov lost against Kramnik and Anand won Kramnik but i think that next match will be between Topalov and Anand and that Topa will win easy...
And Kasparov was wining them all back in 2003/2004 u can check that...
To bad he quit, in future the chess games will be held between Computers and thrue man genius such Kasparov was truly the best chess player planet Earth ever had...

Last edited by Illidan_demonH at 24.11.2008, 21:53

100% Perfection is unachievable, but 99.9% is!

(last year) #48 MrDrBubi 1989

U really know a lot about chess.

(last year) #45 RockinSquat

i think Kasparov would be better in War3 than Grubby in Chess.

(last year) #49 NeverGG

kasparov would own in chess guys he would be the 6th race haha Better light a candle than curse the darkness!

(last year) #50 MojawiPassion

Holy shit, 2 master mind metting :P So niceeeeeeeee :D I am learning chinese so.... Jia You everybody~!

(last year) #51 Lefnui

"Ok Kasparov is the best chess player there was...."

You say that with far too much confidence. Fischer could also be the best player ever.

(last year) #54 C0DIllidan_demonH

No way, just no way...
As much Fischer was young and popular in his time we all know he lost against Spasky at that time and even to Petrosian althow in overall he was dominating them but he fleed to Karpov match rhere for he could not be the best...

Last edited by Illidan_demonH at 25.11.2008, 02:48

100% Perfection is unachievable, but 99.9% is!

(last year) #56 Lefnui

You clearly know nothing about chess.

Fischer dominated Spassky in their world championship match and again in 1992. During the qualifiers for the 1972 match Fischer faced Petrosian and beat him 6½-2½, which is embarrassing.

For you to say "he lost against Spasky at that time and even to Petrosian" shows complete and utter ignorance.

(last year) #57 C0DIllidan_demonH

Spasky lost cos he agreed to play behind cameras dumbster cos fischer was very cocky player but thrue genious, i was saying he did lose some games against petrosian and spasky on many tournaments...But he fleed to Karpov duel hello hello...

100% Perfection is unachievable, but 99.9% is!

(last year) #58 Lefnui

'Thrue genious'? Let me correct myself, you know nothing of chess or English.

You've shown that you are a patzer with no knowledge of chess but at least keep quiet on political matters that you know nothing about.

"He tries to beat Putin reputation in Russia but with his CIA backup "

What a joke. You make yourself look ridiculous with comments like these.

(last year) #59 C0DIllidan_demonH

Ok dude,that is ur opinion, thru my english gramar is bad...
As for the chess i know 1000 times more than ull ever know...
As for the politic u can check my opinion by seeing what object was flown on his party meeting with the media, if u know than u can understand the russian people opinion about him or putin and who back up who, btw his campaign is sponsored with american money u prick go and learn some....

100% Perfection is unachievable, but 99.9% is!

(last year) #60 Lefnui

Maybe it's just your horrible English but your views on politics and chess are just incoherent nonsense. You've made at least 20 comments regarding chess here that are dead wrong. I'll bet your FIDE rating is like 1000.

"he lost against Spasky at that time and even to Petrosian althow"

That stands as the most stupid thing I've ever heard in regards to chess. As I told you, Fischer is known for dominating Spassky and Petrosian. And yet you hold them up as if they bested Fischer. He defeated Petrosian 6½-2½ you idiot!

(last year) #61 C0DIllidan_demonH

ok i let it go, since ur so ignorant fool, and yes fool u are as big as ur country is...
dont bother me....

100% Perfection is unachievable, but 99.9% is!

(last year) #62 Lefnui

"yes fool u are as big as ur country is..." That makes no sense. Yes, go away because you are of no use in a discussion of chess. You have been humiliated in this petty argument so please leave.

(last year) #52 VzPXeelCortino

I wouldn't say kasparov is the best chess player ever, but he sure is a great politic activist, and i'm sure he'll go even farther in the future. http://xeelcortino.blogspot.com <<Please Kindly Comment

(last year) #53 Gascan

how the fuck kasparov knows so much about wc3 ? xd If idiots could fly, BNET would be a fkin airport !

(last year) #63 agentn053

Quoting seinis: Kasparov talked about wc3 in book of his, which told about managing resources in real life. The quote was sth like "now ill give you an example from the game my son plays... something about wc3" i dont remember the name of the book or the exact quote, my friend whos chessplayer told me. I'm pretty sure the Kasparov book you have in mind is How Life Imitates Chess. Now that you mention it, I remember reading about it too.

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