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(9 months ago)  #1 SKAkke

They will add it later with all the other games they always have tournaments in, and DotA have even been one of the biggest at dreamhack so if they drop something they will drop something else... no need to try to upset people -__-

(9 months ago)  #3 ~~KeRm no need to try to upset people -__- +1 not? (9 months ago)  #8 ZpReDAtor welcome to mymym.com where it is all about the hits! No money in my pocket and a mind full of hate! (9 months ago)  #10 Phil Welcome to the media, this is business \o/ Last edited by Phil at 06.10.2008, 23:40 I'm forever blowing bubbles! (9 months ago)  #21 ZpReDAtor Lmao, if mym would have won in LA that news would have been there for a week now that SK won its already old news. I tought esports news is about posting something objective and not only good things for your own clan. Cause the first thing that happend is STFUANDSHOP if MYM would have won if it would still stand there Last edited by ZpReDAtor at 07.10.2008, 01:01 No money in my pocket and a mind full of hate! (9 months ago)  #25 Phil Who is saying we don't do anything about SK in the coming days? Wake up and smell the roses (and read Zechs article on SK) I'm forever blowing bubbles! (9 months ago)  #27 [SLO]Heldarion phil taking it realistic :) (9 months ago)  #11 4KFmatthe #8 hehe xD ╦╦╦╦╦╦╦ The fence of the Ancients ╦╦╦╦╦╦╦

(9 months ago)  #2 CoAS0th

What the hell?! This gotta be a joke!!! Last edited by S0th at 06.10.2008, 22:44

(9 months ago)  #4 Oompa

FFS. Hope Akke's right.

(9 months ago)  #5 verGe_desRow

Akke's always right ! IN THA BUTT ?!?!

(9 months ago)  #6 Coulomb

all articles i read about dota from phil are always trying to screw dota over gj Last edited by Coulomb at 06.10.2008, 23:08

(9 months ago)  #9 Phil You are doing it wrong. 1. It is logical to write it this way as all of the other big tournaments at DreamHack have been announced. 2. I never said that DotA was completely out, or reasoned that it wasn't picked due to (.....) whatever reason. I don't mind criticism, but please take the time to give me some constructive stuff instead. I'm forever blowing bubbles! (9 months ago)  #24 Coulomb   i dont think its such a big news that dota isnt one of the BIG tournaments, so no reason to post news about it (where is your article about "DREAMHACK TO DROP WC3?") maybe you should have waited til the next group of games is announced and then write an article about it (in case dota wasnt picked as a game) (9 months ago)  #26 Phil DotA is way more important at DH than WC3 and SC has ever been or will be. Thus this angle. I'm forever blowing bubbles! (9 months ago)  #50 laskAMAZING   also DotA is way more important for hits on myMYM.com than WC3 or SC :P no criticism though since the news don't do it any other way :D

(9 months ago)  #7 KrakatH

this is total stirring where it isn't required

(9 months ago)  #12 4KFmatthe

Reminds me of the normal TV news. Only bad news from the governments, wars etc... ╦╦╦╦╦╦╦ The fence of the Ancients ╦╦╦╦╦╦╦

(9 months ago)  #13 SWELoda

Well yea I know Akke is right and I don't even know why u publish some of your news Phil... It's good if they are objective, but for some reason I find them a bit ANTI-dota more than pre-DotA ^^ BUT Still all press is good press or? :D

(9 months ago)  #17 Phil Like which newsposts for example? I don't write news to be for or against any specific subject, but I am an editor and I have to work with the information that is available. The angle I have taken goes like this: If DotA is supposed to be one of the main tournaments at DH, it doesn't make sense to publish the other main tourneys (those with the high prizemoney) and not announce the DotA-tournament. In my eyes, that is either downplaying the importance of the DotA-tournament - or a total drop. While the latter is certainly an option, I do note in the news that this specific tournament has been announced later than the main tourney's at DreamHack on several occasions, thus nothing is sure. I'm forever blowing bubbles! (9 months ago)  #60 mandurang   Here's some constructive criticism, Phil. Flavor your articles with hope instead of this slight tinge of bitterness, and I'm not just referring to this article. Instead of saying why dota won't be included, give reasons as to why it should. It's good to be objective, but these are also your opinions - from a guy who presumably loves dota, or he wouldn't spend so much of his time writing about it. Tell the world through this outlet that you have, which is widely read, why dota is, after all, so great. So, for instance, if you claim that sponsorships from big companies is the way to go for the game, tell the world why and how this can happen. If you think dota deserves to be in the spotlight, explain why, because some people (perhaps organizers of tournaments) are not satisfied with the linear argument "because it has a big community". You are not a news anchor - you are an opinion writer. Go ahead and write your opinions.

(9 months ago)  #14 cMw

it will get added, guaranteed there is nothing to worry about it would be more of a loss to the event if they didn't do dota, then to the community itself Last edited by cMw at 07.10.2008, 00:06

(9 months ago)  #15 GG-Usagii

OMG dota not annouced 1st! blasphemy SHIFT HAPPENS!!1

(9 months ago)  #16 YoSnail

A few critiques~ - It appears it would not have been difficult to discover that DotA (and probably others) will likely be added at DH later on. That's why this article is generally misleading. - What basis is there to suggest that the heated discussion about the version has something to do with DotA being "dropped" by DH? It seems there is none, at least from the data presented. Thus, the basic point is purely negative, unnecessary speculation against DotA, i.e. agitation. Why?

(9 months ago)  #18 Phil 1. ? Where is it easy to discover that DotA will be added? Because I don't find it anywhere on DreamHack.se. If you show it to me I will of course add it. 2. "The current version of DotA has been subject to heavy debate in the past weeks, and this situation could add more to that fire." Read. Read. Read. And please try to read again. The current DotA-version has been subject to a heated discussion, right? That everybody can agree on. This situation (the scenario where DH does drop DotA), could actually add more fuel to the fire. I don't say it will, nor do I suggest that DH will drop it due to the version. What I suggest is that people would start arguing over where DotA should go to be taken up by eSport events; which it most probably would, because some people will blame the version, while others will blame something else. Instead of just suppose that I mean every single sentence in a negative way, please try to read it again. I'm forever blowing bubbles! (9 months ago)  #19 YoSnail   I think you might have taken my criticism as an attack-- it wasn't. I saw something I disliked, found it to be misleading, and then gave the reasons without attacking the author or giving an unfair reading. That should have been no problem. 1. As I understand it, in the past few years it was also announced later on, after others. Also, it appears to be common knowledge that they are not going to drop it, particularly from those who live in the country, e.g. the Swedish pros who commented. One can ask people with such connections. You may have mentioned such facts, but as I see it they still conflict with the basic premise of your piece. 2. Uh... thanks but I didn't misread it the first time. No need for that tone. Anyway, I question, with good reason, the grounds for making the connection between the debate and the possibility of dropping, which is most definitely implied and suggested in your article. There still is no connection, as far as I can tell, despite your exaggerated protests. (9 months ago)  #20 shostakovich   One critique: this isn't a news, but a rumour. Just look at the title of this.

(9 months ago)  #22 Anfere

when you don't have any material to write a news on, don't just try to invent stuff. It is usual to announce the games in 2 parts, and its always the fast fps stuff that get announced first the rts later on. So the Big News about fake polemic is just kind of useless.

(9 months ago)  #23 aD.Beast_Pete

Wether a LAN event will present DotA or not is not up to the current (stable) version. It's always about the money, wether it will worth it for them or not. And as DotA has been growing and is still growing fast, it does worth for LAN organizers. DotA has a big community and all the news are visited by thousands of people. And yeah, this isn't news, this is rumour. Would be better if the article was changed to a rumour so noone would complain about it.

(9 months ago)  #28 Aoyos

Total bs upsetting people. when you don't have any material to write a news on, don't just try to invent stuff.(2) An nescis mi filli?Quantilla sapientia mundus regatur...

(9 months ago)  #29 Champ-

drama drama drama Only the dead have seen the end of war!

(9 months ago)  #30 PMSRinoa

W/E Last edited by Rinoa at 07.10.2008, 04:11 She's a maneater

(9 months ago)  #31 Gawdlike PMSing much?

(9 months ago)  #32 LupinSeyren

gogo XCN

(9 months ago)  #33 GenoZStriker

Guess people do not know that Phil knows more about dota and the dota scene then they do and has been following before people knew the D in Dota meant. But what ever If this news is anti dota then it's anti RTS as well. As he said WC3 and SC have no been mentioned. As Dreamhacks first list of games WC3, SC and Dota are usually listed along with CS, but for some reason not this time. Last edited by GenoZStriker at 07.10.2008, 04:53 Demigod ESL 2v2 Opening Cup - http://www.esl.eu/eu/demigod/

(9 months ago)  #35 shostakovich   I don't doubt that Phil knows about DotA. But, 1) his source don't gives him any founded information that DotA has 'gotten the boot'; 2) his source don't specify if there is a discussion inside Dreamhack related to the current stable version discussion, 3) he propagates a RUMOUR (just look to the title of the 'e-sport news', it's obviously a rumour) and makes it look like a fact, a real e-sport news. Look at this: "There is still hope for the game though (...)", as if someone inside Dreamhack actually made an interview saying that there's a big chance that DotA gets out of Dreamhack. The article is well written and Phil is a great reporter, but, please, edit this, and make this a RUMOUR, not a e-sport news. Be loyal to your source.

(9 months ago)  #34 Maeka

no :)

(9 months ago)  #36 mysassyelf

i feel that all these "NEWS" are made to pressure Icefrog into releasing a new version. LOL @ propaganda. friends may come and go, enemies accumulate... gg

(9 months ago)  #41 4ueuL Icefrog has already released 6.55 .. i think dota will still remain in DH.. but whatever happens..we tagay mode mac.. to the tagay!! With great looks comes great responsiblities XD (9 months ago)  #42 mysassyelf but of course good sire, let nothing stand in our way. o0o0hhh, 6.55, gonna check the changes. friends may come and go, enemies accumulate... gg (9 months ago)  #43 4ueuL imba changes mah lord..go check asap ..XD tell me the sched when we tagay..XD With great looks comes great responsiblities XD

(9 months ago)  #37 sG.trech

CSS? ROFL!

(9 months ago)  #38 GenoZStriker

Go MYM.pl Demigod ESL 2v2 Opening Cup - http://www.esl.eu/eu/demigod/

(9 months ago)  #39 softenix

hell no!

(9 months ago)  #40 amimamimo

lol dota players are getting poorer and more teams are emerging.

(9 months ago)  #44 MCCdeclan

all downhill since 6.48b

(9 months ago)  #45 sniperzreborn

6.52e is the best suitable map imo. Could use that as for further tourneys.

(9 months ago)  #46 fril

Quoting LupinSeyren: gogo XCN +1. XcN TO WIN DREAMHACK!!!!

(9 months ago)  #47 SWELoda

Well phil as a good journalist maybe you should ask the ones that takes care of the DotA tournament at DH? ^^ And the million dollar question is, Does Dreamhack take care of that tournament or is it some other site *hint* *hint* That does it? Ask them and then you could gladly publish the news. I would love to hear if DotA was dropped but as I said before, you look more for amount of readers than the quality of the artice.

(9 months ago)  #48 SWELoda

And yea btw Genostriker is that so? Seems like you do know an awful lot about what "people" knows in general then ^^ Could you please enlighten me about how you got this info? And yea Phil mentions that about RTS in general, so what? It still makes sense since it's usually the same guys making the tourny for sc, wc3, and DotA.

(9 months ago)  #49 Xhard   Rofl ! Loda pwning up Phil and Genos guy is priceless ! Gogo Loda ! <33

(9 months ago)  #51 eSubaswedic

forgot bout dat

(9 months ago)  #52 Count_EME

hahaha... Phil has written more lines in answering for people's agitation than he wrote in his article. I think he shouldn't go babbling about something which he only "suspects" and remain patient till he knows something for sure.

(9 months ago)  #53 TheLH

i doubt dreamhack is ever gonna drop dota..but it is logical to publish this, as before when eswc announces dota is not in eswc 2009 first pool of games. no heavy flames back then. why so srs? (: It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

(9 months ago)  #54 duber   GOGOGO XcN!!!!

(9 months ago)  #55 shostakovich

Now this thing is on it's rightful place: the rumour central. Good job Phil.

(9 months ago)  #56 Iblis

POP QUIZ FOR YOU GUYS!@ mymym site biggest traffic is from? 1) SC 2) WC3 3) POKER 4) None of above I hear your silence loud and clear

(9 months ago)  #57 Champ-

WC3 OR DOTA but that seems to easy Only the dead have seen the end of war!

(9 months ago)  #58 Jinne

they are crazy ! prº nºob

(9 months ago)  #59 sedde

Not like it has been like this EVERY year or anything like that... Phail...

(9 months ago)  #61 vazz

dota is added no worries

(8 months ago)  #62 cazper

noooooooo.... E = mp³

(3 months ago)  #63 KylinAlexLee

OMG.