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09th August 2008, 15:55

* myMYM banned from WCG Asia

mymym, wcg asia

The myMYM.com crew - Singapore markvon and WC3 ESUP, Wind have been banned from the WCG Asian Championships due to an issue over the release of several DotA replays.

Despite being told by the game officials on how to obtain the replays, Rapture Gaming, the organizing committee behind WCG Asia has eventually come to a decision to disallow the crew from covering the tournament.

In fact, the organization has also failed to inform all on-site media crews that uploading of replays was forbidden. Rapture Gaming would also not accept any accommodation, and issued a ban without hesitation.

Nonetheless, we apologize for all inconvenience caused to all viewers and supporters from home, but we will still try to cover this event.

Presently, myMYM.com is the only media that has been punished with a ban. It should also be noted that GarenaTV was broadcasting all matches during the day.

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Group B - KingSurf (Malaysia) vs ToFu (Korea)
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Group A - E-Home (China) vs DLLM (Hong Kong)

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Comments (113)

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(3 months ago) #1 4KFmatthe88

LOL! Can't believe this o_O ╦╦╦╦╦╦╦ The fence of the Ancients ╦╦╦╦╦╦╦

(3 months ago) #2 vic9812

what bullshit

(3 months ago) #3 ChippeD

<3 mymym coverage!

(3 months ago) #4 Elven_Star

T_T Elen sila lumenn omentilmo

(3 months ago) #5 MYM\|Army

"You can get the replays from these computers"

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(3 months ago) #8 hellstar

Rofl Army :)) DOTA COLA !!!

(3 months ago) #9 NeverGG

lool Better light a candle than curse the darkness!

(3 months ago) #60 LupinSeyren

oh no,, poor little kitty T_T

(3 months ago) #107 GG-Uchainer90

:D:D:D:D:D so good :D

(3 months ago) #6 Seaflower

Hahahahha ,such bullshit! lol really.

(3 months ago) #7 Rakhilim

sad news =(

(3 months ago) #10 Phil

I love organizers!

I'm forever blowing bubbles!

(3 months ago) #13 hellstar

^^ DOTA COLA !!!

(3 months ago) #11 Shana89

omg the organiser sucks so much...

(3 months ago) #12 frequency-

Is it just me, or do MYM and WCG not go hand in hand?

<ROMANIAMAFIA> and i want to masturabate to Visarka's voice

(3 months ago) #17 ~~KeRm

it's u lololololo

not?

(3 months ago) #22 frequency-

shh emo wog <ROMANIAMAFIA> and i want to masturabate to Visarka's voice

(3 months ago) #14 Perdita

well it's a fact that WCG not allows to publish replays since 2006(?).

It's good to be bad!

(3 months ago) #18 myMYM\|Windelman

never heard about it. but the fact that Garena did exactly the same thing, but wasn't banned because they were one of the sponsors of WCG Asia speaks for quite a bit as well :)

oh, and we were also asked by the admins to change to garena t-shirts too (after being banned!). :))))

Last edited by Windelman at 09.08.2008, 15:47

(3 months ago) #19 hellstar

Noob ;) the replays will be kept secret until the event finishs... hehe... did u copy them into usb ? :) send me ! muhuhaha ... p/s sad that Vietnamese team lost ~^^~ Last edited by hellstar at 09.08.2008, 14:42 DOTA COLA !!!

(3 months ago) #47 GG-MaRs

hey wind plz state out the truth. We never release ANY replay during the event even we have almost all of them.

You can check that the games on GarenaTV cannot be saved. That's why they allow garenatv to stream it. Otherwise they will never allow garenatv to stream it.

And ask herman if garena is the sponsor of wcg. of course not.

visit www.gg-game.com for low latency gaming!

(3 months ago) #49 myMYM\|Windelman

yeah you released and took it down thereafter.

(3 months ago) #51 GG-MaRs

where? i never released it man last year i released some replays then almost get banned. so this year i will never risk trying it. Last edited by GG-MaRs at 09.08.2008, 18:44 visit www.gg-game.com for low latency gaming!

(3 months ago) #50 MYM\|Army

It is some kind of interesting topic. The sense of disallowing replays to be published is to keep the competition fair, so other players cannot see strategies and picks and so on. That situation is however not guaranteed when people can at any time watch the stream, as it resembles a replay, doesn't it?

Maybe you can englighten the community on what the purpose of the regulation exactly is?

I suppose what Wind meant with Garena being a sponsor, is that your page is the official media partner.

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(3 months ago) #53 GG-MaRs

yes we are official media partner but that's very far and different from a sponsor. We will even help them to update on wcg news site tomorrow.

for the part of disallowing replays, i am not pretty sure as this is decided by wcg. I want to upload replays as well , the community want to watch the replays and it is obviously good for garena to upload replays to generate more traffic.

So last year they actually collected all the replays and posted a zip pack after a few weeks. I will try to talk to them, see if we can get the replay posted after the event is over.

visit www.gg-game.com for low latency gaming!

(3 months ago) #54 myMYM\|Windelman

Rapture representatives were saying that Garena was a sponsor, and that Garena wouldn't be banned under any circumstances. If you need names, I'll be more than happy to release them.

1) The admins have pointed out which computer I should look for if I want replays. With that, it was obviously safe to assume that there wasn't a rule that forbids transferring of replays.

2) We got banned 2hours later by the head official, who refused to even explain their decision.

Last edited by Windelman at 09.08.2008, 19:14

(3 months ago) #55 GG-MaRs

well in fact garena is only Official Media Partner if u check on all wcg posters/banners i don't want to be invloved in your conflict with rapture. thats not my intention. We never upload a single piece of replay for the whole event so far. I told you that last year i uploaded some of the replays and i had conflict with rapture as well. They complains about me a lot last year. visit www.gg-game.com for low latency gaming!

(3 months ago) #59 Dendra

from a highly neutral perspective im speaking from my sc experience and it goes for other rts as well i guess, i dont pick sides based on names and power behind them, i just follow common sense and what's right:

yes, the sense of disallowing replays to be published is to keep the competition fair - no replays are released until whole qualifier for a certain country is over,yet during competiton games can be watched on wide screen, often commentated, etc., isnt that quite same as garena stream?

that has always been allowed and yes i agree it looks weird to forbid releasing replays, yet at the same time you show the games live - but there is a big difference between watching a replay and watching a live stream or VOD...

korean proleagues for example never release the replays, we only get VODs from that, do they help us? no...we need replays to analyse the game properly. that's why for example wcg korea is huge as it is the only time of year that we actually get a replay pack of hottest sc gamers out there.

releasing replays of any games while the wcg qualifiers are still running is highly disrespectful towards the teams/players, yes it pleases the crowd but i always thought "releasing replays only after wcg qualifier is over" is more of a common knowledge, there are many gaps in rules which should be self-explanatory due to moral values any human should have but we've seen countless times people abusing those holes, as if we need rules for everything.

as for the penalty - its a bit harsh to ban someone for releasing replays, if such rule is applied to everyone then i support it, as making special rules for sponsors or important coverage sites wouldnt be a wise decision. apparently there is more to this story as both sides like to throw in the good things so i cant really comment on the fact garena wasn't banned.

Last edited by Dendra at 09.08.2008, 21:42

If force won't work, use greater force.

(3 months ago) #61 MYM\|Army

GarenaTV stream is an on-demand screen - same as WTV. You can watch the game with the game-engine anytime as long as it's still listed. Generally games are not being removed from there.

So basically you are watching a replay, just loaded from an online source.

Last edited by Army at 09.08.2008, 21:42

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(3 months ago) #62 Dendra

hmm well then apparently garena tv and these games arent quite the same as in sc - because in sc releasing vods/watching live streams really doesnt help you that much, well ok you see how someone is playing, reacting, etc., but you dont see the details that make the difference as one screen isnt sufficient to follow build orders of two players, etc. If force won't work, use greater force.

(3 months ago) #29 MYM\|Army

However it is void if those games are being streamed and are publicly available to anyone - plus the admins even told the crew how to obtain the replays. It's very sad that WCG Asia has banned a coverage page which puts ressources into promoting their event. Very unprofessional. pobudeczka na bacon i jajeczka