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Please note: This issue has been resolved, and KS has been unbanned and whitelisted again. For further information see the news : http://www.mymym.com/en/news/12321.html
Sad and disturbing at the same time, we are faced with the difficult mission to announce such an ugly thing to the dota community.
After days of analyzing and debates, we came to the shocking conclusion that
Kingsurf used map hack in their game against
1P in the Playoff preliminaries of the 9th MYM Prime Defending. First the Greek players discovered two moments when their enemies clicked on heroes while being in fog. We took the replay and analysed it on all sides, we came across another map hack prove.
We will now state the facts:
In minute 33:23
Ks-papaxiong (Atropos) clicks the enemy warlock while he's hidden in the fog after a 5 vs 4 battle lost by Ks.
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Ks-MiKeBz (Mirana) clicks enemy spectre at the secret shop to see what item he buys.![]() |
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Min 44:35
Ks-MiKeBz (Mirana) clicks enemy hero Venomancer while in fog.
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Ks in this game, which were to us enough proof that they have indeed used a map hack. An example is Mirana´s action around minute 54, arrowing Spectre in the forest (hero hidden there, and after almost a minute out of enemy vision).
Kingsurf vs
1P match replay: Page :
(last year)
#1224
FraNx-
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Quoting yu6562181: opps, i didnt notice that, this might happen becuz of the lagness and delay that my area line not stable. the same thing happen to Ks versus 1P, there is minor delay for Ks to join a game from western. | |
meee...
NOOOT xDD just dont blame ks and ban 1P... | |
(last year)
#1226
iryutmd
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(last year)
#1228
xChen
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The outcome of MyM admins is no longer important because the damaged is done and the scar will remain. An apology wont bring things back to normal. Yet a sad day in DoTa history. Maybe maturity does matter when handling these problem. Clearly, in Dota community the admins are just too young to manage such issue. A sad day but nonetheless it actually portrays the level of maturity the gaming community has. =)
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(last year)
#1230
hebe_tian
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@1228 agree, "the damaged is done and the scar will remain"..
let's jsut sing MYM anthem.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbAX9A8Cq0k Vigoss arrow just like hell, he surely MH MYm always know when they opponent ROshing, surely MH I'm sure kaka and Messi used steroid.. i have screen shot from their match..there is no way human can jug a ball like that, they also like having eyes on their back.. so absolutely steroid.. i already consult it with my proffesional doping examiner friend.. | |
(last year)
#1231
FraNx-
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this issue not only affect Ks reputation, but also MYM's.
------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- I dare mym admin to post a "VP banned for hacking" on the main page for the same offence that they click an enemy hero under fog in VP vs RoSA rules are rules and VP is no exception | |
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(last year)
#1233
heecha
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One thing for sure, we'll never forget this valentine day ever
Maybe this will set up a new story of valentine days: A day when the fans give all their love to protect their team How is it? Last edited by heecha at 14.02.2008, 17:06
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(last year)
#1234
REAL_HANS2
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for me its very funny how ks is accused for mh
1) if you go net cafe you cant mh 2) if you go mh @ home you can it easy make undetectable (all played even from pub level can do that) 3) i just laugh at the mym expertz who are evaluating this for days best comment ever ist from admin who thinks there is no delay (in replay LOL LOL LOL) all i saw is clicking heroes which go into fog and was clicked right before (very new feature i know) on 40:11 i saw no selection on spectre when he was shopping on 40:06 spec was visible so same select while visible in div league i give shit about mh accuses as mostly 90% are wrong and the other 10% cant be proved i can only say LOL @ 1P more LOL LOL @MYM | |
(last year)
#1235
MaZuI |
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I think KS would've suffered much , but I believe they will drop it . Maphack is a serious offence , that's why MYM admin pounced on the issue before the Pride #9 continues .
It is true that they might have acted too hastily , but there were no prior known bugs of such known before they came to the conclusions .. Please guys, the Admins made a mistake which I believe they would've apologised @ a later time . Who doesn't make mistakes ? Do you find yourselves arousing suspicion of your opponent MHing before? ( In a game ) I do. And I came to conclusions faster than a person in the right mind would . For those who were flaming 1P , please ... give them some respect . Stop joining in the flamming bandwagon . If you'd read from the interviews , they ( 1P clanmates ) thought they caught KS mh-ing due to the red circles bug existing in the current version which is previously not known .. They don't post on forums but instead , made actually the most rationale move to approach the MYM admins . I do agree they are not as competent as KS ( as present ) in competition , that does not make them a ****** clan ( Losing to the likes of KS is not a disgrace . ) For the people who screamed ' racism ' , I don't get it . The accusation brought on was that they were suspected of MH ( Which I weren't convinced :D ) You will make yourself look foolish by continuing pursueing the matter . IF I'm the MYM crew - Make an apology to the community, and , above all , to KS . IF I'm the KS member - I would let things settle down ( How would we react if we suspected the opponent MH'ed [ This is a bug not known before ] . )For us , sideliners? We should wait patiently for the proper verdict they we know would come :) Cool down , It's over . It's pending. | |
(last year)
#1236
FraNx-
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for those 'anti-Ks' association, plz take attention to the below li
http://forums.dota-allstars.com/index.php?showtopic=204187 | |
(last year)
#1237
heecha
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One thing for sure, we'll never forget this valentine day ever
Maybe this will set up a new means of valentine days: A day when the fans give all their love to protect their team How is it?-lol XD | |
(last year)
#1238
MFucker |
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go ks go ks go!!!! luv ya!!!
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(last year)
#1239
ZpReDAtor |
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Many comments ;>
No money in my pocket and a mind full of hate!
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(last year)
#1240
SsSconkiecupu
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ehmm... have you guys thought that mirana maybe alt tabbed or something? when in spectre screen shot, and mirana was dead, so he might alt tabbed that makes the lag. Im not sure about this just try to help... Hehehe...
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(last year)
#1241
yu6562181
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FYI, this isn't a bug from warcraft...
Actually, if you play RTS games & watch the replays often, its really common to see clicking the unit out of sight, even more with delay.. example of the games? try it yourself, age of empire series (I & II & their expansions), Red alert II, Rise of Nations, and etc... so saying red circle on fog would be stupid, unless you cast a chain frost on your opponent hidden on the forest for like 2 mins.. ( direct hero spells...) zzz... sometimes common sense is not too common | |
(last year)
#1242
PKDGloRyforGreeCe |
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well i dont think that number 3 in mym pride would need to cheat to win a team like 1p seriously...ks innocent... admins do something
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(last year)
#1243
DmkBassAgents |
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u r free ks ^^ wellcome back ks
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(last year)
#1244
yu6562181
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1P GG back you ;)
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(last year)
#1245
xthiaN_ |
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Well the positive side is that there are so many pla
d^-^P
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1200+ comments in less than 24 FFS -_-
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(last year)
#1248
imported_cychia
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yeah a 1000+ post is really work!!!
thanks to all the supporters..^^ | |
(last year)
#1250
hyhyhyhy
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http://www.gg-game.com/forum/viewthread.php?
tid=105860&extra=page%3D1 Refer and see the facking KS hackers. Watch the facking replay. We zenith have tolerated enough of the KS hackings. Also, to speak up on the issue where we lost to VIP, yes the host was laggy and we should have been granted a replay, I also want to apologize on my pal tofuboi's "eat my dick fackers". KS GG BACK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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(last year)
#1251
P22neinspiratul
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sad news :(
hardcore flamer np.
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(last year)
#1253
m0m0-
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Is this hyhyhyhy really from the Zenith team? If yes, he is just making Zenith looks even ugly.
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(last year)
#1254
alexanderOM
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#1250 Zenith crazy fan ????
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(last year)
#1256
MyLuvDestiny
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1P gg back you !!!!!
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(last year)
#1257
HeBEbe
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hey~ wer the heck are anti-Kser now?? KS fanboys already woke up and fight^^
wer are u guys~~ come and argue somemore wif the world xD i tot early comment u all guys so fucking arrogant accusing KS and thinking KS fanboys are pushover?? | |
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Quoting S1rro: This is a normal replay bug with Warcraft 3, happens even in ladder games when they click themselves. -MrQuincy
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(last year)
#1261
vieestchien
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Admins should edit/remove this topic, or at least li
Not that I think they would do though, like they care. | |
(last year)
#1263
vieestchien
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Oh they did. Not bad.
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Quoting hyhyhyhy: GET A GRIP Kid & STFU. You fucking sore loser... A world w/o walls and fences - who needs Windows and Gates?
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GGrrr... I almost took me an hour just reading a single page of this 11 thread e-drama. Hahaha
A world w/o walls and fences - who needs Windows and Gates?
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(last year)
#1266
Daidai
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Wow.......doesn`t MYM admin feel shame for this??
Simply accuse ppl without verifying it........... Snake is from Teg of coz he will happy If Ks is Banned so Teg dun have to fight them in Quarter........ Wake up Bah MYM admin | |
(last year)
#1267
string_ray
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Combowhore.
KS just gg back-ed 1P with 225 gold. Snake = Bias , prejudice , racist. P/s : I love s1rro | |
(last year)
#1268
DmkBassAgents |
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GG back u 1p !
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(last year)
#1269
xNeWb
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1p got pwned and so is the admins =P
ks ftw | |
(last year)
#1270
WaDsTeCh
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GG back u 1P- noobs team !!!
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(last year)
#1271
smiles333
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i hope ks won't be affected by this during their upcoming matches which is nearly impossible
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(last year)
#1272
YaTzY
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Never heard of the replay bug before..
But is it proven that a replay can bug that many times? But still to accuse a pla But i looked at the replay, and i truely understand the MYM staff i would have done the same ''mistake''.. Still i belive that it should be taken seriously, it could really be true that a team of that rank did do that :o, so it is nice to see that some one in the gaming community notic these details gj. Still i would dissagree, the argument is that they cant cheat at a internet cafe? NOT TRUE, i work at a internet cafe and once in a while we find that people found ways to use theird parts programs for games like CS and WC3. But i would like to think that gamers like KS, got skills and not cheat.. I like the work btw<3, looking forward to see you in the PD.. I use cheat IM ON EPO so my reations is like a windfurry OF DOOOOM <.<. Good u gave them an appolygies fast MYM@ Last edited by YaTzY at 16.02.2008, 01:56
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(last year)
#1273
YaTzY
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well, its hard to cheat in a cyber cafe when hundreds of people are watching you play !
your daily gaming fix @ http://eyesofagamer.blogspot.com
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(last year)
#1275
DmkBassAgents |
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no comment...everything is fine...
ks are out from the tournament... | |
(last year)
#1276
manhunter321 |
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lol
you will know and recognise me after somtime
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