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31st January 2008, 20:55

Grubby disappointed with MYM’s opening match

Last evening saw the closing match of WC3L Season 13 inaugural playday with Germany Mousesports steering themselves with a close victory over Internationa- MeetYourMakers. Despite being an underdog, the German-based team managed to go against all odds with a lineup which was much in their favor.

France Human mouz.ToD made the early breakthrough for his team by mauling over Korea, South Orc MYM]FoCuS with a swift tier-2 tower rush, followed by a one-sided game over the Orc player on Echo Isles.

Newly acquired Netherlands Orc MYM]Grubby managed to defeat Russian Fede- Undead mouz.Happy in his WC3L debut with a score of 2 to 1 for the prominent Dutch star.

 

The 21-year-old claims that he was set to face anyone, despite practicing only the Orc vs Undead and mirror match-up.

“I had preparations to play anyone, ToD SaSe Fly or Happy, although I didn't think ToD would go on TM. I practiced for UD & Orc.

“When I saw the line-ups, I felt we got one of the worst possible ones, and I knew it'd be hard to get even a 3-2 score. 2-3 isn't horrible either though, but I wished for more.” He told myMYM.com.

However, he has also expressed his discontentment with the team’s debacle in its opening game of the season.

“[Before the match], I tried not to think about it too much, but I thought we had a fair chance to win the clanwar overall.

“No one would have wanted that [score]. But I try to be realistic, and given the line-up I knew it would be hard. I tried to set my expectations drastically lower when I saw that. I'm disappointed.”

He adds: “I'm not surprised about result of ToD/FoCuS; Lucifer had a really hard match with Fly, [but] he tried his best.

“I'm glad I didn't lose my first match for MYM. I'm most disappointed about SaSe vs Shy, but I haven’t seen the games yet.”

When asked about the second game on Echo Isles against Happy, Grubby revealed that the loss was due to a tactical lapse.

He said: “That was the result of a poorly planned start economically. I left my base with 1 set of heal salves, because I was low on gold (due to giving priority to teching T2).

“I could not possibly have an effective harass in the middle, having spent all salves before I arrived. I never had a chance after giving away the marketplace for free, gaining some additional damage.

I'd have been better off just going afk for a minute”

Yet, the Orc player maintains that the map was rather balanced for both the Undead and Orc race.

“Well traditionally in 2005, UD's used to complain that there was no way to stop Orc from expanding on the map because of the distance involved in walking there.

“But since about 6-9 months or so, top UD's have been picking EI increasingly more. I find the map sometimes quite easy and sometimes quite hard. Although it's quite a textbook map, with quite fixed patterns of playing in Orc vs UD.

“Sometimes I try to change something up, resulting for better or for worse.”

 

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(7 months ago)  #1 garettenator
 
I love how Grubby acts like Shy is 100x better than Sase... Shy is better than Sase but Sase isnt a slouch and i dont even like the guy :/ Lucifer vs Fly well... I hate to bring it to this but yes. It was imbalance. Lucifer barely won the game on TM. Honestly if Grubby played Sase i think Sase could have taken the series due to his slight improvment thus far. Grubby shouldnt be disapointed. Mouz was better than day.
(7 months ago)  #21 myMYM|Phil
Phil
Uhm SaSe's mirror is real swingy, so I see where Grubby is coming from actually. But he is not a bad player though, don't think Grubby thinks so either.
I'm forever blowing bubbles!
(7 months ago)  #2 Fayspire
Fayspire
well he has reason. Shy losing? hard to see, and he lost against the worst mouz player who mouz had on his line-up. Btw NE vs NE is a bit f luck but I watched the games and the second game was for him then he risked to win him fastly but SaSe defended well and gg. The first game was play good by both, but I had a sense like Shy was understimating SaSe.
I have to add that Lucifer played really really godlike, but orc is orc and fly is a top orc player we all know that, that wasn't easy and Fly played godlike too.
Last edited by Fayspire at 31.01.2008, 21:36
(7 months ago)  #3 Meibas
Meibas
well shy is 10000000 times better then sase ... sase aways lose .. and he won his first match for the new season .. that's like seeing the cave people to use tools for first time TT :P
(7 months ago)  #4 yxrkt
yxrkt
i didn't know people had such low opinions of sase. i always thought he was one of the greatest elf players, just lacking very much in consistency
(7 months ago)  #5 GoblinTheGob
GoblinTheGob
“I'm glad I didn't lose my first match for MYM. I'm most disappointed about SaSe vs Shy, but I haven’t seen the games yet.” - yea, me too ^^ I'm gonna watch'em.
I'm gonna kill all thieves
(7 months ago)  #6 moska
moska
Thats something we would never see at the 4K's website !
Good job.
(7 months ago)  #7 S_cast0R
_cast0R
gg overall, be optimistic
My only state is a State of Trance.
(7 months ago)  #8 wNv|VBadGirl
VBadGirl
Putting Lucifer on GW was the worst decision ever and its the reason why the outcome of this CW. You guys got greedy, you expected free win Sase to come on GW since chinese (fly) don't practice much on GW, but life goes on.
as for sase vs shy, lets just say Sase played a newb strategy, which u only see in low lvl RT BNet, but yet effective enough to catch off a tehing player off guard and rape him.

Hold the S cause i'm an AINT.
(7 months ago)  #11 garettenator
 
Quoting VBadGirl:

Putting Lucifer on GW was the worst decision ever and its the reason why the outcome of this CW. You guys got greedy, you expected free win Sase to come on GW since chinese (fly) don't practice much on GW, but life goes on.

as for sase vs shy, lets just say Sase played a newb strategy, which u only see in low lvl RT BNet, but yet effective enough to catch off a tehing player off guard and rape him.
Yeah massing tier 1 and adapting to the 5 archer tech To push before he could get set up at t-2 is a noob RT strat than okay VBGirl. That made no sense. Mirror is about adapting and Shy didnt adapt so go back to your hole. Give your job to me since you dont know a thing about wc3.
(7 months ago)  #16 wNv|VBadGirl
VBadGirl
Quoting garettenator:

Yeah massing tier 1 and adapting to the 5 archer tech To push before he could get set up at t-2 is a noob RT strat than okay VBGirl. That made no sense. Mirror is about adapting and Shy didnt adapt so go back to your hole. Give your job to me since you dont know a thing about wc3.


Massing tier 1 is newb low rt lvl if you ever had the curiosity in playing BNet. But it's not just about adapting but it's about the surprise element which Sase manage to provide quite nicely. knowing Shy will teh as it's the typical play on that particular map.

Don't tell me when Moon comes with 'crazy' innovative strategies he is just adapting? ahah.

Hold the S cause i'm an AINT.
(7 months ago)  #26 myMYM|Dendra
Dendra
seems i've missed a private war here - badgirl gave a realistic comment, i've seen and given plenty of those in starcraft and have received plenty of comments like this one - on a side note, if you were so good like you think you are then she wouldnt have to give you her job - you'd have it already.

why bring private wars and going offtopic is beyond me, i hope you'll settle this somewhere away from the public eye.

If force won't work, use greater force.
(7 months ago)  #9 seventydot
 
unlucky mym, but ggs
that photo of grubby is named "grubbosaurus.jpg"
rawr!
Last edited by seventydot at 01.02.2008, 00:52
(7 months ago)  #10 Vello
Vello
i really have no idea why the lineup of mym turns out to be like this .
tw.gg-game.com // EsM-Vello.eXtreMe
(7 months ago)  #12 Contrail
 
I think Grubby made a mistake on EI by choosing endurance aura instead of stomp on TC first.

Sase winning was a surprise considering he is 1 win 3 loss in EM but like i said previously Sase has been mass practising vs NE lately. (hovermoon)
Last edited by Contrail at 01.02.2008, 04:09
(7 months ago)  #13 wtfomfgbbq
 
i agree, putting lucifer on GW was a bad decision. orc > UD
on GW orc >>> UD
(7 months ago)  #14 mysassyelf
mysassyelf
at least grubby won...

btw MYM's 3 loses in 1 on 1 matches vs mouz? that's horrible... T_T

friends may come and go, enemies accumulate... gg
(7 months ago)  #15 myMYM|Elven_Star
Elven_Star
Well, in my opinion managers know their players better than anybody else, I'm sure they had a good reason to put Lucifer on GW. Anyhow, I think mouz did nice and showed some unexpected moves. GJ
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo
(7 months ago)  #17 CeDreamz
 
god damm it. just shut up both of you. stop turning threads into flaming threads.
The dead shall rise..
(7 months ago)  #18 FreEDDom
 
I'm quite disappointed as well.

btw VBadGirl maybe not the best person to be commenting on manager decisions considering wnv gives defwins almost every friggin' clan-war. At least MYM players show up ^^
(7 months ago)  #19 wNv|VBadGirl
VBadGirl
What has players showing up to do with my manager decisions? u got 2 brain cells and those working bad... -.-;;.
Hold the S cause i'm an AINT.
(7 months ago)  #20 FreEDDom
 
If you think making sure your players show up has nothing to do with you as a manager I really question why wNv hired you (although it does answer a few, lol). Actually, I still question why wNv hired you...

My point is, maybe you should be looking up to MYM, instead of criticizing them. After all, you did lead your team from top of the NGL2 score-board to failure to even have a chance at NGL1, and failed to requalify for WC3L. It must take a really terrible manager to achieve that with the level of skill in your team. It's a shame really...
Last edited by FreEDDom at 01.02.2008, 08:29
(7 months ago)  #22 oX
 
Better luck next time mYm, WC3L XIII is yours!
(7 months ago)  #23 Johnabou-
abou-
I tend to agree with grubby, the MU wasnt the best and still shy should have won! However setting 2 MU's with so bad odds as the case with ToD/FoCuS and Fly/Luci makes anything more than 3-2 impossible.

Would like to have seen grubby play ToD or SaSe tho. =)

However nice to see that MYM is so open to criticism and discussion!! No word on whether or not u listen tho ;)
Last edited by abou- at 01.02.2008, 14:33
(7 months ago)  #24 luvstyle
 
if your dissapointed you shouldnt hide on tm and wait for uds...
(7 months ago)  #25 NeverGG
 
bullshit
Better light a candle than curse the darkness!
(7 months ago)  #27 myMYM|Dendra
Dendra
shame for mym. judging by the comments it seems sase was underestimated, i dont know why - even if he is the worst player he is still on the roster of that team for some reason (and im pretty sure it aint his lovely eyes), anyone is capable of defeating anyone.
If force won't work, use greater force.
(7 months ago)  #28 SirZ
SirZ
rofl wNvVbadgirl dun tell ppl how to coach when ur teams not even as good as them bet mym weakest line up could beat u guys
(7 months ago)  #29 _evan
_evan
'However, he has also expressed his discontentment with the team’s debacle in its opening game of the season.'

Some of your language selections were suspect to say the least.

- 'However' is an adverb (adds information and context to sentences) and can be used as a conjunction. You use it for neither purpose, so it's completely redundant and fragments the sentence.

- Why use three separate pronouns of 'he' in the first six words? A pronoun has already shortened a noun phrase down to one word, so excessively using pronouns is about the worst form of redundancy you can achieve.

- 'Discontentment'. Please explain why you've chosen to use a longer and unwieldy version of a word, when the meaning doesn't change what so ever. Discontent would've been fine.

-'Debacle' is completely over the top and just a very poor lexical choice. Here's me thinking you actually work for MYM as well. Always remember context, so while a defeat is a disappointing result, it was only 2:3 and your new player won his first game. Your poor lexical choice draws attention to itself and makes the defeat more obvious.

Here's an example of how you could've wrote the sentence - “He expressed discontent at the teams opening game of the season.”. Your mistakes are obvious, and by no means severe (in this case). I suggest in future, if you're struggling with bulk, just get more information or add more relevant context.

Don't take this offensively, I could break apart any writers work in the scene, including my own. I've just started to use this website regularly and you seem to be the main producer of content.
(7 months ago)  #30 littleroad
 
anyway
just fighting!you can do it!

come here for grubby...excuse me...~
(7 months ago)  #31 Sebelas
 
GL in PD2 Grubby and the rest of the team fightin!!

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