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18th June 2006, 15:10

Finals

Sweden DatC0   
17.June. 2006United State- JMC0
United State- JMC2 
 17.June. 2006Bulgaria DP0
Bulgaria DP2  
17.June. 2006Bulgaria DP2
Bulgaria WiN0 
  18.June. 2006Internationa- STFUDefwin
Internationa- STFU 2   
17.June. 2006Internationa- STFU2
United State- verGe 0 
 17.June. 2006Internationa- STFU2
Romania GT1  
17.June. 2006Sweden WiTF0
Sweden WiTF2 
  18.June. 2006Internationa- STFU
United State- TPD2  
17.June. 2006United State- TPD2
Internationa- lolboat0 
 17.June. 2006United State- TPD2
Russian Fede- PLZ2  
17.June. 2006Russian Fede- PLZ1
Romania Eq1 
  18.June. 2006United State- TPDForfeit
United State- coL2   
17.June. 2006United State- coL2
Romania TeG0 
 17.June. 2006United State- coL0
Germany PLAGE2  
17.June. 2006Germany PLAGE0
Russian Fede- OwL1 

The final game between TPD and STFU ended up in a drama. First one of STFU's players disconnected and since a save had been made within the last 15 min, and TPD did not have a 5+ kill advantage in the time after the save, a regame from the savepoint was forced. But this meant that TPD no longer had time to finish the match since several players from their team had to leave due to fathers day dinners.

Following STFU was not able to reschedule for a long time to come due to vacations comming in the way the following months. We then offered to have coL take the place of TPD, but TPD refused this, so it all ended up with STFU getting a forfeit win.

A very sad ending to the tournament, which i guess leaves us all with a nonsatisfactory feeling.

The match for the 3rd place finisher between coL and DP will probably be rescheduled to another day. More information on this later.

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(3 years ago)  #451 imported_Found
 
These people and the clans they represent are the reason why DOTA will never be a "pro" game. These kids are way too amateur and way too stupid, and they're suppose to be the pros of the game. LOL
(3 years ago)  #452 HIRADoTa[expert]
DoTa[expert]
dont judge us by yourself 8[
(3 years ago)  #453 sPSAY_TT_PLZ
 
Kids-dota players isn't a problem. The bigest dota problem is kids-balancers...
(3 years ago)  #454 QiMbaQ
 
Balacing is a tricky thing han, in theory best way will be "get top teams to do it". But the problem is, DOTA isnt just for the good teams, infact majority are playing lower level, like norm inhouse/pubs, we are minority I think who play -pick cw.

Now, to balance games for lets say noobs + pro very hard. Example, Naix, for him to ever be useful in cw's, he might need 60% lifesteal again, more starting strength, maybe even more strength gain - before he even is considered a cw hero. However, if this is done, sure he may be balanced hero for CW now where he doesnt totally suck, but majority of inhouse/pubs will now be owned by this hero.

Look at mercurial, she will never be used in cw IMO, but people - even after nerfs, will say she is most powerful hero and needs nerf. Some other examples are, most teams will agree that silencor is pretty much overpowered, however he may never get a nerf simply because, majority (being lower skilled) actually complain he is too weak - he is actually very powerful when its being used by the higher skilled players; they cannot use these heroes as effective as us, infact theres posts whining about how useless silencors ult is, and he sucks generally - Which we will find incredibly humerous, but it is truthful for alot of people, another example is Spirit breaker, owns in inhouses all the time, but never in cw just because he can't be useful there... Im sure you can make many more examples yourself.

Hero mechanics is a bigger problem which results in hard balance - to satisfy both top cw-style play, aswell as the majority pub/inhouse type games,

Its a bit comparative to say, balancing ladder games. Firstly, theres 1v1 to balance, but 2v2's, 3v3's etc. So somtimes AOE is too weak in 1v1, but to buff it it would mean in 2v2/3v3 games it becomes gamebreaking - which was later more solved with adding caps. In DOTA, there isnt such a simple solution, rather you must change hero mechanics of the majority - Which i dont see happening for a minority imo :).
Last edited by iMbaQ at 22.06.2006, 17:14
(3 years ago)  #455 imported_mikejones
 
nerf beastmaster
(3 years ago)  #456 bloodik
 
what about pub heroes and cw heroes? as you said there are heroes for pub and heroes for cw so fix cw heroes for cw and pub heroes for pub.
too simple solution?
(3 years ago)  #457 KuKu
 
I think this page would look infinitely nicer with JUST comments #2 and #3. I'm sure most would disagree because public debates are always catchy, but this has gone way too far, people have too much time to write exhaustingly long posts. Quite an annoying method to choose a public way of solving personal problems between two people.
(3 years ago)  #458 DPThe_Hungry_Man
 
#456 Show Icefrog how to do it then :)
(3 years ago)  #459 HIRADoTa[expert]
DoTa[expert]
when the game for 3rd place gonna be played? O_O
(3 years ago)  #460 DPThe_Hungry_Man
 
I hope we will set a date, as soon as I find someone from coL. mIRC @ quakenet guys?
(3 years ago)  #461 Fedz
 
wer 2 get lumbar???

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