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(last year)  #370 wickedgoesAlex

why fucking people cry about admins over and over again I cant see ANY admin mistake in this case

(last year)  #371 dmZeQuiNOX-

Open ur eyes mate! ;) Chill4Skill

(last year)  #372 CUbigodecu

In fact, I think most don't even no "the case". Have anyone already tried to explain it? PLXPLXPLX?

(last year)  #373 Yeti_rrr

Good admins = invisible admins. Sirro bad admin... he acts like showman Dear, Sirro main show is about DOTA not about u. The log ownes... If i was the person who Sirro talked to in that log my answer wuold have been brutal and unmanner. Couse he speaks like he is the only person to make decisions and to judge.

(last year)  #374 PKDGloRyforGreeCe

sirro got sources^^ must be interpoll

(last year)  #375 CzeAnGeL4eVeR

the story continues... Prime #7 - The sleeping admin As a inteRaction we have reached the groupstage. After that, there was a tie-braker. The last game was iR vs SB (vietnam team), we started at 16 CET, but the vietnamese guys could not play on any european, russian or north american host. So Underminer, after about 5 hours of waiting said, that if they cant play on any US or other host - they will loss. But then came S1rro and told us, that we have to look for a host,(until we will find him), which is good for both. So we continued to looking for a host, until both side were OK(we tried, at least ;)). So we were looking for "him" until 4 am CET (12 hours!!) and then we gave enemy default win. ( Because this admin, after decision, that we have to find suitable host for both, went sleep - maybe we want too?) Prime #9 - Lack of Luck??? We also qualified to preliminaries, and first match was against Russia team tN. After about 28. minutes of playing, tN guys plugged and then told us that their PCs were sold ( :) :) ). We said, OK, we will continue the game next day. Next day, tN guys told us, that they dont have the saves and that we have to play again ( Situation was that we were winning by more then 10 kills, our centaur with radiance, dagger and BOT against there void with pt, 3wraith bands and a blade of aclaricity). But S1rro said that we have to play again... So we have won the game again. And then I was writing on czech forums that there is only question if s1rro will seed us against VP or MYM (the first was right :D) Ps: Here is a little advice for teams: if you are loosing, plug the game and say, that you will load it tommorow - then say you dont have the saves. S1rro will tell you to RMK it, too. Prime #10 - Inquisition by S1rro As a seeded team we were seeded into one of the most difficult preliminary group with w4sp and SGC. So we played the game against SGC and won - by more then one category. Then SGC sent protest that Iacek played instead of Da_SwOOp. Maybe you all think that admin would first honour presumption of innocent? Not S1rro. He started to spam all nEph players with sentence: "WHY IACEK PLAYED INSTEAD OF SWOOP?!" When all said that Da_SwOOp played, he tried second pretty fair mechanism. "IF YOU DONT TELL ME IF IACEK PLAYED YOU WILL BE BANNED FOR NEXT 10 MYM TOURNEYS." When he finally understood, that he cant terrorize us, he started strategy that he has IP LOGS on GGc. Another day there was not even one word about IPs - because he had no proof. Now IS SIX!!! days after the match, and without any REAL PROOF we have default loss. And the "reasons" were: SwOOp had bigger APM than usual, and that he wrote few times on IRC channel ( idefix done the same). For example Enigma aka Zhaoyun APM XsK vs VP 108APM, XsK vs PWNZ 111 APM, SGC vs eMg 157 APM, w4sp vs SGC 151 APM. PRETTY CONSTANT APM. During these six days, we tried to communicate with S1rro, but it is maybe really hard to communicate with someone, whose most popular answer is " :) ". But good luck to SGC, first team who made TOP16 with smashing loss... Last edited by AnGeL4eVeR at 22.04.2008, 20:09

(last year)  #398 SGCzelvuska be honest and write the same apologizing longstoryshort post as u did on www.dota-all-stars.net DotA is the future of progaming.

(last year)  #376 MaliSunSet

It's easy to cry about admins, you are the players you have almost nothing to manage ... Why do you tell only the negativ points and not the positiv ? Don't tell me they do only a bad work ... Everyone can do mistakes ! Be more forbearing please, thanks. Gl&hF Last edited by MaliSunSet at 22.04.2008, 20:14

(last year)  #377 eSubaSuRpR1sE

#376 sure that there are lots of great moves made by the Admins, but the thing is that all bad moves are more touching and easier to remember. But what s1rro made is not professional decission. In every modern state there is a law which contains the presumption of innocence. And there is not possible not to show all facts to accused and every suit is public. But nobody here can say what is going on to the community and even to the suspect, which is making everything and mostly the decission irrelevant. I will take back my bad opinion on s1rro if there will be straight facts of nEph smurfing given soon. Last edited by SuRpR1sE at 22.04.2008, 20:40

(last year)  #378 volund

#377 do you think that s1rro has ever heard something about presumption of innocence? he's making decisions by himself, he's the boss here. s1rro google something about Habeas Corpus Act --> it's a document from english history, where the presumption of innocence was included 1st time and it's 329 years from it yet!!! Last edited by volund at 22.04.2008, 20:45

(last year)  #379 volund

#377 do you think that s1rro has ever heard something about presumption of innocence? he's making decisions by himself, he's the boss here. s1rro google something about Habeas Corpus Act --> it's a document from english history, where the presumption of innonce was included 1st time and it's 329 years from it yet!!!

(last year)  #380 snK_SworD

Well That is true, Everyone need proofs to feel ok and keep on believing that s1rro choose was the right one, but if he doesn't help, give def loss based on things like #375 said and expect this to pass with no one seeing is funny. the true is that we really need some proof, and saddly it's looking like he doesn't have. Last edited by _SworD at 22.04.2008, 20:49 Someday u will reach the top and maybe the top will reach me

(last year)  #381 svkSacco

And you have to do what ? click some , reply to some questions and upload a few replays. Anyone can do that. Act mature in communication, handle the cases as professionals and follow your own schedule is what is needed. You kids just gave several examples (especially S1rro) that you're typical useless shit (sorry for the harsh words)

(last year)  #395 MaliSunSet Nevertheless it isn't as easy as you say it.

(last year)  #382 snK_SworD

Omg repeated. =| Last edited by _SworD at 22.04.2008, 20:51 Someday u will reach the top and maybe the top will reach me

(last year)  #383 eSubaSuRpR1sE

ye if there are so clear facts it can'T be that hard to show it, sadly the neverending delaying and stuff has the bad impact on the reputation of this tour :(

(last year)  #385 snK_SworD

Ok so people just have to shut mouth (fingers) and do nothing after seeing some wrong judging? I loled. Someday u will reach the top and maybe the top will reach me

(last year)  #386 STLego-

i still wonder if the ip logs, which are stated as proof, will be shown. I just learned that ggs admins can only view a user's address at the current moment, so it is very weird that they come up with proof after 6 days after the game

(last year)  #388 svkSacco

#386 Tha's another story. Logging the IP logins/logouts for every room for a few days will generate huge amounts of text. I highly doubt a project like garena can afford to store logfiles

(last year)  #389 GenoZStriker

Every Prime has it's darksides that is kept away from the public in order to not Damage the name of the tournament. I feel really sorry you guys. Gl to all teams moving on to play-offs. Warcraft 3 forever

(last year)  #390 NtoPSethest

well admins pls try to apply on gg admins to make some tournament and league rooms where will be ips logged and make it rule to play in these rooms, then no such dramas will be discussed

(last year)  #391 cyclone24

where can i find informations about the games played now? ; I placed a bet on teg vs srs match that started like 20 mins ago but i can't find any info about it (i know its played for PRIME DEFENDING #10 ....)

(last year)  #392 revered

In the log sirro talks like a bloody kid. Who lets kids like this be an admin of a tourney of this scale? No comment on the situation, but just seeing the chat log made me laugh at how immature sirro is. Why do cows wear bells? Cos their horns don't work.

(last year)  #393 Brockster

man, its not like a kid, its the famous BAD COP dude, "scum, i know you have the drugs, you can admit it now, and we ll all get along very well, or hey i can break some bones before and you ll learn it the hard way!! Think again, do you have something to tell me, dude?" The evil cop points a strong light source in the face of the poor suspect, "i swear i m not guilty, really" The evil cop gets enraged and smashes a stool/table/inventory of your choice "ok, you wanted it that way, now i m really pissed" The cop pulls his gun ... what will happen now?

(last year)  #394 slaya

Yay s1rro has been demoted and is now only a staff member!

(last year)  #396 FiveDuragon

no sirro?((( and now we can't say SIRRO RETARD?((( :CRY:

(last year)  #397 God 's Strength

go virtus , you win