MYM - SENNHEISER Prime Defending #10

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04th May 2008, 00:05

Warnings and bans

Sennheiser Communications

Player punishment	Team punishment
Warning - a player is being warned for abusive behavior or breach of game rules. A player can only receive one warning.	Warning - the team is being warned for a minor violation. A team can only receive one warning.
Punishment - A player is being banned from 1/more/all following matches in this tournament.	Punishment/Warning - A team will, after the opposing teams and admins consideration, receive a forfeit loss and a possible warning from the following tournament.
Ban - a ban from the following tournament(s) and a possible ban from the website.	Ban - a ban from the current and a possible ban from the following tournament(s). Seeded teams will get their seeding for the next tournament revoked.

Player punishment

Team punishment

Cubswin - player banned from the next MYM PriDe

Ban for manipulating brackets related to his team.
Ban extension for fake nicking and playing for a team while being banned from tournament.

Klink - player banned from the this MYM PriDe for

Fake nicking in a match for another team.

Da_Swoop - player banned from this next MYM PriDe for

Playing for multiple teams
Sharing account with other players

Isteran - player banned from the this MYM PriDe and the first season of PDL for

Fake nicking in a match for another team

Man1ak - player banned from the this MYM PriDe and the first season of PDL for

Fake nicking in a match for another team

Aidar - player banned from the this MYM PriDe and the first season of PDL for

Fake nicking in a match for another team

Stripez - player banned from the next MYM PriDe for (the ban has been shortened due his unreservered cooperation with the administration crew and providing of heavy evidence.)

Fakenicking in a match for another team.

50|Calibre - team banned from the next MYM PriDe.

First warning due to team leader manipulating brackets in teams favor.
Defloss and ban ( a team can only receive one warning ) due to using an unrostered player fake nicking and banned player fake nicking.

gL - Germanischer Lloyd

Defloss and warning in next PriDe tournament for using unrostered player fake nicking.

Guts - Clan Guts

Defloss for back dooring.

xLo - Excello.DotA

LAN related late scheduling and/or playing outside of playday boundaries.

Rush3D - Rush3D

LAN related late scheduling and/or playing outside of playday boundaries.

srs - Serious Gaming

LAN related late scheduling and/or playing outside of playday boundaries.

SK.DotA - SK Gaming

team warned for usage of an unrostered player (Rwar)
Rwar was added to the team roster afterwards and is free to play with the SK.

Virtus - Virtus Pro team banned from the next MYM PDL. Losing the seed from next PriDe.

LAN related late scheduling and/or playing outside of playday boundaries.
Defloss and ban ( a team can only receive one warning ) due to using three unrostered players fakenicking.

nEph - nEophyte.BARBONE

Defloss and warning in next PriDe tournament for using unrostered player fake nicking.

mouz - Mousesports

LAN related late scheduling and/or playing outside of playday boundaries.

SGC - Storm Games Clan

LAN related late scheduling and/or playing outside of playday boundaries.

All bans/warnings are available in this and possible the next edition of MYM Prime Defending!

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Comments (86)

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(6 months ago) #1 7kaDaEmON

1st blood! :P Ban 'em all!

(6 months ago) #2 DHZeN08

i really dun see d point banning a player "name".. when they can play with "another name" right?

(6 months ago) #3 iamRA

hehe :) there s a good reason for that also Last edited by iamRA at 10.04.2008, 02:01 -My might cannot be matched-

(6 months ago) #4 slaya

Why was 50 banned from the next pride but gL only warned? gL did the exact same thing as 50, Darkfire_ was actually a major hypocrite reporting 50 for using ringers when he used one himself.

(6 months ago) #9 50\|GRiFFuNIT

Slaya is absolutely correct, I mean, c'mon MYM, you guys have tried to screw us over since the very beginning with the whole PMS incident, then you put us in the hardest bracket in the American qualifiers, you're banning Cubs for TWO prides? For what reason? You haven't spoken to Cubs or to 50 personally whatsoever.

On top of it all, gL isn't on a Ban flag but 50 is? We admitted our wrong doing publically while gL hasn't even apologized, rather, they just removed themselves from the tournament?

Seriously, I don't understand the basis on all these judgements and why we're recieving a much more harsh punishment than other teams, when I think we've done the very best we could with the situation we put ourselves into. It's a hard thing to do to be frustratated with the decisions that have been made, when we put ourselves into the situation that we're in, but the people or teams that have done the same thing as we have, recieved lighter punishments than our own which is where the problem that I see lies.

-Griff

(6 months ago) #57 jamrambazambabanshee

then you put us in the hardest bracket in the American qualifiers no offence, but if you're afraid of american teams how do you even think you'd be able to handle the EU and asian ones that qualified?

(6 months ago) #21 MYM\|Army

50cal already went in with a team warning into this tournament, due to teamleaders actions.

pobudeczka na bacon i jajeczka

(6 months ago) #41 50\|GRiFFuNIT

It would have been nice if we were ever told this by any Admin from your staff. We were never once contacted and when I attempted to contact you directly about our situation and ask you about all the details of it, it took you over 24 hours to respond, and when I responded back to your less than timely reply, I never recieved another word from you.

How is it fair that you hand out a warning to a team without telling them? I understand that you guys/girls are Admins and have busy schedules, but as noted above, there are 6 teams with infractions from this tournament, you would think that the Admins might take time from their schedule to tell the team about it, which would take all of 2-5 minutes?

Maybe if we were informed that we had recieved a warning as a team after what Cubs did (which I still think is directly your DotA crew's fault by not taking a full look at the entire qualifier, because afterall, it is your job) and told us as a team the entire punishment we would have recieved we would have made different decisions?

You as Admins have done a pretty poor job communicating with us, obviously you are not the ones to blame in this situation because we committed the infraction, but if we were told that we had already recieved a team warning for Cubs' actions then it very well could have effected our decision vs. gL. For that, I think you guys can take a very very small part of the blame, but for the most part, I think you've just failed as Admins from a communication standpoint, and I'm sorry if that offends you, but it's the honest truth. We were never told that we recieved a warning as a team for Cubs.

Last edited by GRiFFuNIT at 10.04.2008, 20:15

(6 months ago) #53 MYM\|Army

Okay, so it's my fault that you are writing me while I'm offline, and then when I get back to you the next day you tell me 'nevermind'. So I shouldn't have neverminded and actually gotten back to you? Your teams warning and cubswin's ban have been even publicly stated in the DotA Allstars forum thread which basically everybody of your team is hanging around and posting in, aren't they? And I do not see a reason to communicate with 10 other members, when the teamleader has been informed about it, or is ignoring messages. That's what you have a teamleader for. So stop attacking the admins for not calling your mother. In the end you as a team have done a pretty poor job breaking the rules by using banned players and players not on your team roster, who actually used accounts of your other players. Now you are trying to intimidate admins for doing their jobs and barking loud in the comments about great injustice? Forget about it. Last edited by Army at 11.04.2008, 15:58 pobudeczka na bacon i jajeczka

(6 months ago) #5 TCStripez

So can i get unbanned from mym.pride so i can dispute this?

(6 months ago) #6 50\|DKP-Minus

Quoting slaya: Why was 50 banned from the next pride but gL only warned? gL did the exact same thing as 50, Darkfire_ was actually a major hypocrite reporting 50 for using ringers when he used one himself. id love to hear the explanation of that as well

(6 months ago) #7 CoAInvaderZim

Lysol im willing to bet it has something to do with Cubs. Thye are obviously punishing the rest of you for his "bad actions", even though i'm fairly sure you guys (50\|cal) had nothing to do with that what so ever..... sooooooo....... GG MYM admins...

(6 months ago) #8 TCStripez

mym.pride unable to join channel (address is banned) - #mym.nations unable to join channel (address is banned) can i get this unbanned just to talk?

(6 months ago) #10 EGWhisper

Seems very unfair that gL gets a lesser punishment for playing a larger role in this ringing ordeal than 50cal did. Give them both orange or both red, doesn't matter which, but should be consistent. Edit: On second thought, gL needs to be given a red. An orange flag does nothing in this case. They had already lost and been eliminated from the qualifiers tournament. In filing a complaint against 50 for cheating when they themselves did the same thing to a greater extent, they really didn't have much to lose. To just "forfeit" them is not a punishment at all for their cheating. Last edited by Whisper at 10.04.2008, 03:20

(6 months ago) #11 EGWhisper

I also think leniency should be taken on Stripez for presenting evidence against gL and forcing them to admit to cheating. That's admirable work!

(6 months ago) #12 TCStripez

Whisper i wish your words had more say =(

(6 months ago) #13 1hqViets-

In my country, everyone gets a red flag, with a star in the middle, too. Because we are all stars. :)

(6 months ago) #14 EGWhisper

The admins are very reasonable and I think if we present them with clear, concise, and logical reasons for why the punishments should be changed they'll listen.

(6 months ago) #15 gLTwIsTeD-

Quoting Whisper: I also think leniency should be taken on Stripez for presenting evidence against gL and forcing them to admit to cheating. That's admirable work! SNITCH!!! ROFL J/K :)

(6 months ago) #16 EGDOGKaiser

I hope someone can enlighten me as to how gl managed to get away with no punishment for cheating.

(6 months ago) #17 H2OKapz

!unban stripez

(6 months ago) #18 DavidChoe

Can the mym admins put up some information about their reasoning? It seems that every time something like this happens, there is no actual dialogue about why. It's upsetting as a spectator.

(6 months ago) #19 MCCdeclan69

Lol i bet s1rro feels really important and powerful right now. Funny thing is that ringers/subs are widespread in the mym tournament, i know quite a few teams who had people play on others' accounts just in the asia qualifiers.

Last edited by declan69 at 10.04.2008, 08:30

(6 months ago) #31 DNRandoyX

true true. but if those teams who happened to use ringers/subs were already eliminated in 1st/2nd/3rd rounds of elimination, then I think s1rro here doesn't give a shit whatsoever. lols.

A world w/o walls and fences - who needs Windows and Gates?

(6 months ago) #38 ownnumb

He warned gL who were eliminated in the 2nd round, sort of. So technically he cares. And declans right, i often see ppl spamming LOOKING FOR DECENT LAST TO PLAY MYM GAME! in irc channels.

(6 months ago) #20 Lewltime

I can tell you about 10 teams in the american qualifer that used ringers in their matches... Its a bitch scheduling matches with south american teams who want to play at retarded hours, when most people have stuff to do....

(6 months ago) #37 slaya

Pretty true. I know that the south american teams wanted to play at like midnight their time which is 11 est and like 3 of teh matches had to be on a school night the only time we got a good scheduling day was against nafu on a sunday. Other then that we had to get late as hell match times it is a pain to try to schedule vs a team on another continent. North and South America are just too hard to schedule for they might want to consider making 2 brackets one for north and one for south america.

(6 months ago) #22 RDnSka

lewl DRAMA

(6 months ago) #23 adeon

competitive dota! dota scene! professionalism! metaGAME!

(6 months ago) #24 RDnSka

GOOD FOR metaGAME GOOD FOR metaGAME GOOD FOR metaGAME GOOD FOR metaGAME GOOD FOR metaGAME

(6 months ago) #25 TaigeR

plz ban xLo ...:)))))) lol

(6 months ago) #26 Bozhik

Horon `em all! /drama_on

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