Group A
Match	Team 1	Score	Team 2
505 ( 8 )	YamatO	2:0	papi
507 ( 0 )	YamatO	2:0	HighRate
509 ( 0 )	papi	1:0	Zero Equals Zero
511 ( 0 )	papi	0:2	Team Excello
513 ( 0 )	Zero Equals Zero	0:2	Team Excello
506 ( 0 )	YamatO	2:0	Zero Equals Zero
508 ( 5 )	YamatO	1:1	Team Excello
510 ( 3 )	papi	2:0	HighRate
512 ( 0 )	Zero Equals Zero	2:0	HighRate
514 ( 0 )	HighRate	0:2	Team Excello
Group B
Match	Team 1	Score	Team 2
520 ( 1 )	Scandinavias Finest	0:2	Reapers Elite Guard
522 ( 4 )	FEAR OF THE SPOON	0:2	Reapers Elite Guard
524 ( 9 )	Reapers Elite Guard	1:1	sP[Palit]
515 ( 0 )	Micronology	0:2	Scandinavias Finest
517 ( 2 )	Micronology	0:2	Reapers Elite Guard
519 ( 3 )	Scandinavias Finest	0:1	FEAR OF THE SPOON
521 ( 1 )	Scandinavias Finest	0:2	sP[Palit]
523 ( 18 )	FEAR OF THE SPOON	0:2	sP[Palit]
516 ( 0 )	Micronology	0:2	FEAR OF THE SPOON
518 ( 1 )	Micronology	0:2	sP[Palit]
Group C
Match	Team 1	Score	Team 2
526 ( 0 )	Vault Team	2:0	Wizz
528 ( 0 )	Vault Team	0:2	DotA
530 ( 1 )	fade.dota	2:0	Nafu
532 ( 1 )	Wizz	0:2	Nafu
534 ( 1 )	Nafu	0:2	DotA
525 ( 0 )	Vault Team	1:1	fade.dota
527 ( 1 )	Vault Team	2:0	Nafu
529 ( 0 )	fade.dota	2:0	Wizz
531 ( 0 )	fade.dota	0:2	DotA
533 ( 3 )	Wizz	0:2	DotA
Group D
Match	Team 1	Score	Team 2
535 ( 0 )	WorldEaters	2:0	sKaping
537 ( 5 )	WorldEaters	1:1	The Tammy Tang, True, Tofu Team
539 ( 0 )	sKaping	0:2	Evil Geniuses
541 ( 0 )	sKaping	1:1	Die Noobz
543 ( 0 )	Evil Geniuses	2:0	Die Noobz
536 ( 0 )	WorldEaters	0:2	Evil Geniuses
538 ( 1 )	WorldEaters	2:0	Die Noobz
540 ( 0 )	sKaping	0:2	The Tammy Tang, True, Tofu Team
542 ( 0 )	Evil Geniuses	2:0	The Tammy Tang, True, Tofu Team
544 ( 0 )	The Tammy Tang, True, Tofu Team	2:0	Die Noobz
Group E
Match	Team 1	Score	Team 2
552 ( 4 )	SkyRiders	0:2	Team Pandemic
554 ( 3 )	Team Pandemic	1:0	Viet Ns
545 ( 4 )	1fall	0:2	Dimension 4
547 ( 6 )	1fall	0:2	Team Pandemic
549 ( 4 )	Dimension 4	2:0	SkyRiders
551 ( 2 )	Dimension 4	1:0	Viet Ns
553 ( 1 )	SkyRiders	1:0	Viet Ns
546 ( 1 )	1fall	2:0	SkyRiders
548 ( 0 )	1fall	1:0	Viet Ns
550 ( 5 )	Dimension 4	1:1	Team Pandemic
Group F
Match	Team 1	Score	Team 2
556 ( 1 )	SK.DotA	1:1	Want a Cookie?
558 ( 0 )	SK.DotA	2:0	Mi2
560 ( 0 )	1fall	1:1	FMI
562 ( 0 )	Want a Cookie?	2:0	FMI
564 ( 0 )	FMI	2:0	Mi2
555 ( 1 )	SK.DotA	2:0	1fall
557 ( 2 )	SK.DotA	2:0	FMI
559 ( 0 )	1fall	0:2	Want a Cookie?
561 ( 0 )	1fall	2:0	Mi2
563 ( 0 )	Want a Cookie?	2:0	Mi2
Group G
Match	Team 1	Score	Team 2
567 ( 0 )	Team hi2u	1:0	Immunity
569 ( 4 )	Nice-1 Gaming	0:2	Dead or Alive
571 ( 0 )	Nice-1 Gaming	0:2	Virtus.pro
573 ( 1 )	Dead or Alive	1:1	Virtus.pro
566 ( 2 )	Team hi2u	1:1	Dead or Alive
568 ( 0 )	Team hi2u	1:1	Virtus.pro
570 ( 1 )	Nice-1 Gaming	1:0	Immunity
572 ( 0 )	Dead or Alive	1:0	Immunity
574 ( 0 )	Immunity	0:1	Virtus.pro
565 ( 16 )	Team hi2u	2:0	Nice-1 Gaming
Group H
Match	Team 1	Score	Team 2
584 ( 0 )	Against All Authority	1:1	excello.dota
575 ( 0 )	neXtPlease Gaming	1:0	ExsequoR
577 ( 0 )	neXtPlease Gaming	2:0	Against All Authority
579 ( 1 )	ExsequoR	0:1	Hookers are 2 Nasty
581 ( 0 )	ExsequoR	0:1	excello.dota
583 ( 3 )	Hookers are 2 Nasty	1:1	excello.dota
576 ( 6 )	neXtPlease Gaming	0:2	Hookers are 2 Nasty
578 ( 0 )	neXtPlease Gaming	2:0	excello.dota
580 ( 1 )	ExsequoR	0:1	Against All Authority
582 ( 1 )	Hookers are 2 Nasty	1:1	Against All Authority

 

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(2 years ago)  #201 Metro-

You can find them here: http://forums.dota-allstars.com/index.php?showforum=402.

(2 years ago)  #202 TPDFachh

I don't know of all the drama with papi but from what I see they forfeited cus they knew they woudn't qualify even if they won all of theie remaining matches. What is the big deal? It is better to light a candle than to curse the dark

(2 years ago)  #203 MYM|Army

There are no replays to be udpated, all replays have been uploaded since 2-3 days. The only replay which has arrived since then is the DoA vs maGe tiebreaker. pobudeczka na bacon i jajeczka

(2 years ago)  #204 BTNH

yeah no big deal if they ff since they cant qualify, maybe making the tourny double elimination will remove this feeling of "we cant qualify anyways why play"

(2 years ago)  #205 BTNH

maybe 1 game of ap and double elimination would be good?

(2 years ago)  #206 jikanomi

omg Metro! stfu dude pls when u r observing. nobody wanna listen to ur crap. and oh btw...did i mention tht ure noob? damn u are so annoying!

(2 years ago)  #207 DoABerthi

rofl^^

(2 years ago)  #208 wsbLBruceWANG

#201: It is a big deal. This is a group stage, people win on points, its about sportsmanship. They ruin the group, the tournament. Every other game people have the decency to finish what they committed to, not back out only when they don't stand a chance of winning. Like a bunch of pubby leavers. Imagine a world cup where teams just quit if they had no chance to advance.

(2 years ago)  #209 Drayich

Well, in a worldcup you will se teams playing with their worst lineup and with no spirit whatsoever to win. I hounestly dont know if its better. If you go play 1-1 against a "pro team" in the beginning, there is a big chance that any team that playes against them after they cant qualify gets a 2-0 win without any problems, just becouse they just have no attitude for winning. If you think that would make more sense, or be more fair sure, I dont. I hounestly think there is no point forcing teams to play games when the tournament is over for them, however. I do think that teams that just leave like this / not putting up any shows. Should be none-seeded teams next tour. Which means, if you dont complete a tour you'll loose your seeding. And if this makes the team see the remaining games as "good practice" or something that would be pretty good. But just for the tour. Nothing else. Anyone who got 2-0 on somoene who afterwards left shouldnt be sure that other etams wouldnt have gotten the same result. You are competing for top2, then you should be top2 regardless of teams in the group. Last edited by Drayich at 02.05.2007, 15:35

(2 years ago)  #210 WEKruemel

"Should be none-seeded teams next tour. Which means, if you dont complete a tour you'll loose your seeding." But... does that really hurt the teams that are then not seeded anymore? It could also lead to matches of high lvl teams facing each other in the earlier rounds (where there is no real disadvantage for the non-seeded team) and if popular teams drop out early it makes the tournament less attractive overall

(2 years ago)  #211 none1111

#207 The qualifiers for their group will still be the same whether papi played their remaining games or not. Not to mention that papi is not the only team who FF'ed matches in their group. FF'ed matches should not be counted because it's so easy for two teams to manipulate the scoring system to their advantage.

(2 years ago)  #212 hunterkiller

if there had to be a team who would suffer the most due to a team ff, one of them would have to be team papi itself. imagine they had to play HIRA and to exert effort to defeat them, after HIRA ff all other teams in their bracket gets the same 2:0 result. this is considering that HIRA can more or less beat those other teams hence greatly affecting the scores.

(2 years ago)  #213 wsbLBruceWANG

#211: thanks for making my point, imagine the team that actually worked hard to spank papi nicely earnt nothing even if in papi's case they didn't stand a chance in hell to win, if they want the experience of playing international games why leave early? moreover sets a bad precedent for groups where the last games DO count for some tied teams but not others you can be nice and say, oh they can't progress, let them go, but its not elimination so its not that simple to be so lenient to them because it affects other teams no, you can't force them to stay but there should be some penalty, whether warning or loss of seeded position

(2 years ago)  #214 kr4zed_j0o

Even if HIRA stayed, and won all subsequent matches after losing to papi, papi would STILL not qualify with their current score. Why is everyone crying?

(2 years ago)  #215 DHkaeramaw

says ene, the team who got ownd 9-1 then PP for a reload, and when neutral host Dcs decides to host the game to win the game. lol

(2 years ago)  #216 TCmO-

kaeramaw ur a joke. it was 6-2 when host drops..Then we went up to 19-8 and one of them dropped (they were all at lan, yet one of them lost connection?) and we had to remake from 2-0 them. Keep talking though, making your self look good

(2 years ago)  #217 DHkaeramaw

lol thats not what the replay shows before the drops. not uploading it for a reason? and when host drops, papi can barely control their heroes. then you say "you guys were late play on or we tell the admins". really wanted to win that badly without showing skills eh? its a shame, its better to lose in a fair match than win unfairly you know. Last edited by kaeramaw at 02.05.2007, 21:03

(2 years ago)  #218 TCmO-

The replay wasnt uploaded since it was 5 mins in (2-0 score for papi) when we first saved it. If we really didnt wanna play them, we wouldnt have stayed up till 4 am waiting for them to show, when it was suppost to be played at 1 am. Ur a moron. Ur fav team loses = lag or excuse. This is the 10th time this happens with all those azn teams

(2 years ago)  #219 [papi]Mrmacnice

@wsbLBruceWANG as if we're the only team who forfeited. PLS stop this nonsense argument. Its over already. Thanks. Goodluck to the remaining teams! =p Last edited by Mrmacnice at 02.05.2007, 22:24

(2 years ago)  #220 wsbLBruceWANG

@slyslysly: No you weren't the only one, I have clearly flamed my own ex team from australia as well, doesn't mean because all the other little boys jump in a fire you go and follow them.

(2 years ago)  #221 H2OOwnaGe-Juice

so how did we lose?

(2 years ago)  #222 outsiders_86

Not every team play off form like what Hira did...those fan boys should wake up..

(2 years ago)  #223 hunterkiller

in PAPI's case, the outcome would always still be the same, it has no effect to the tied teams. just in case their forfeiture could ruin the scoring of the other teams, i'm sure these guys are gentlemen enough not to summarily quit the tournament. in this case however, YO and ene will always qualify no matter what. besides, why penalize an act when it is not provided so in the rules. of course, this issue may be used as a basis for updating the rules for future tournaments.

(2 years ago)  #224 DHkaeramaw

LOL nice lies mo. the replay wasnt only 5 minutes long at 2-0 coz that wasnt when the DC happens. your the moron. we all know u didnt want the FF win for your teams rep, but if you really wanted to win fairy, why no remake after papi was saying they couldnt take the lag. instead you say "u were late let the admins decide" LOL. face it, you couldnt take on papi fairly and you forced them to play on your host? have you guys ever beaten someone not on your hosT? LOL

(2 years ago)  #225 jikanomi

#223 mebbe if u take out all those 'LOL' in ur comments, it wouldnt sound as gay! if you think someone's a moron, just come out and say it without those pussy 'LOL' you dumb hag! it's getting old already and so is this tournament! lets moving on. and all those cry babies can go and cry at ur mom mebbe u'll get lucky she finally decide to breastfeed u again!

(2 years ago)  #226 hunterkiller

#224 oh my, so much love spreading around. <3

(2 years ago)  #227 TCmO-

ok kaeramaw, next time we are losing 30-10 or somethin, we will ask other team if we can start over on a new neutral host. fuking tard What team do u play for btw? ...thought so, keep on chearing

(2 years ago)  #228 NDORevoMan

umm, wtf happened to Nafu??? They had a 2-0 win vs Wizz and now its 1-1??? LOL and they ffed all their matches? :-/ Admins > Nafu np

(2 years ago)  #229 Valentine-

It seem's that the fanboys had also invaded the mym.. Pizdec.

(2 years ago)  #230 streetrock14

Admins, please release the next rounds so the teams can play this weekend. (: Zenit--oops i mean MYM Dota ftw np. lol...

(2 years ago)  #231 Kenn-SA

Nafu's 2-0 win was changed to 1-1, because BOTH teams could not make it to the match. Hence We didn't give Nafu the 2-0 win just for showing up when in fact they could'nt either. Last edited by Kenn-SA at 03.05.2007, 05:30

(2 years ago)  #232 Kenn-SA

double post =X Last edited by Kenn-SA at 03.05.2007, 05:37

(2 years ago)  #233 DHkaeramaw

lol mo, think its fair your opponents are lagging and youre not? come face my team meet me on quakenet anytime. we HOST, lets see how far you can do? but im certain your too scared to do that.

(2 years ago)  #234 hunterkiller

@kaeremaw and mo if the grudge match did push through, can you please post replays or a simple report. i find this kind of interesting. ^^ @mym eternal sir, didn't wizz ff their games a long time ago? i think the teams would not even be able to communicate to fix their schedule since wizz already disappeared?

(2 years ago)  #235 kr4zed_j0o

Maybe you should know the story before you speak kaer. The fact is we scheduled the match 3 different times, and had a perfect TESTED neutral host for both of us. Each time, 1 of the members from your great team would show up and say they couldn't play that day. 3 DIFFERENT DATES WE HAD SCHEDULED THEY canceled, when we had perfect host and everything. We dodged nothing, in fact, we agreed to schedule the match a 4th time, and we had a host, monday 1am EST, yet they show up 3 hours late and make us play at 4am when the host leaves. This is clearly our fault right? Please know the story before you speak, why do you think no one from papi is talking? Facts are facts, now go home and cry.

(2 years ago)  #236 wsbLBruceWANG

Enternal: IMO, the best way to deal with forfeiture is to restructure the group as if the team hadn't been there, that means 0 points for all teams, even the ones that had played them. Hard luck for teams that won, but forfeit is just that, a messed up situation that messes everyone else as well and you shouldn't tiptoe around it. Awarding points for games against forfeit teams is how you run into problems like your NAFU decision. This TIE for Nafu 1-1, is really not fair and the ethics behind the decision are questionable, for example, which team declared their inability to not play first? Can't NAFU just say "we didn't attempt to play because they had forfeit". Stay clean wipe them off the slate completely, delete them from the group.

(2 years ago)  #237 DHkaeramaw

lol they showed up late because DSL around that area was broken. no surprise, its a 3rd world country. Im not saying its your fault, im saying you guys won unfairly. Papi arent talking in public coz they dont need to. but we all know what happened. You guys should stop posting lies, im sure you dont want that replay popping up where you guys got ownd and got "DCd". how can you say it was a 5 minutes replay when the disconects didnt even happen at 5 minutes and at 2-0. Lying to save face? As for the challenge, why not accept it? scared of the lag? only us asians have to face it? if you think theres no lag why dont you try it. I know why not, coz your a pussy so is your team. Last edited by kaeramaw at 03.05.2007, 12:06

(2 years ago)  #238 dmZeQuiNOX-

Guys... do u allways have to keep ur flaming in every Pride tournament? Would be pleased if u mym admins upload replays and open the playoffs. Else this tournament will freeze. And if u need replay uploaders and coordinators you should msg me! Pls keep going .) Chill4Skill

(2 years ago)  #239 ROSnake

grow up, and manner up, beacause if u continue like this, players will be banned from the site, and from the tournament so please keep all posts in a decent style end these pointless disscutions, beacause they dont help anyone, only bring shame for all teams involved into the argument... GL HF to all remaining teams in the next stage, witch will b updated as soon as the tiebraker games are played, in case u didnt see the scene news, the links is: http://www.meetyourmakers.com/en/scene/4929.html

(2 years ago)  #240 hunterkiller

thanks for the link sir gt-snake, i wouldn't have seen it if not for your post. O_o good luck, i can't wait to see who would play each other in the playoffs. ^^

(2 years ago)  #241 DoAUhu

ffing games because you cant proceed any further is totally unmannered. since this is a tourney where ppl gain experience in playing international game and the fun should be in the first place, I highly disregard such a behaviour like some teams put on. teams who simply ff because they cant proceed any further should be excluded from upcoming tournaments or at least loose any seeding position... its just very unmannered and unfair to every remaining team!

(2 years ago)  #242 WaPLoooooooL

JJ why are you and mo arguing with a kid that plays for no team in this tournament? Bro just let him keep going makes him look stupid >_>

(2 years ago)  #243 Metro-

Won't discuss over the NaFu topic since they are already screwed up. About forfeiting matches because you can't qualify, imagine if in a football league let's say the Italian League (I don't know anything about football). Chievo Verona, Messina and Ascoli have 32, 25 and 21 points. There's no way they can reach the ranked 1 Inter Milan with 87 points. So ask yourself, is it correct for this three teams to forfeit all their matches because they can't win the tournament? They can even pull a win on Inter Milan and get a few points from them, contributing to the tournament. I'll repeat again, I know nothing about football but forfeiting matches because you know your team can't qualify is just horrible. A different thing is forfeiting because of lack of time (which I still find bad because your team signed in to the tournament knowing it would take so much time to play it). For example TeamQ pulled out of TFL for personal reasons. Did anyone complain or flame them? No because there is a legimit personal reason of the players forcing them to pull out of the league. This are all comparisons of forfeiting matches and forfeiting them because you can't qualify is just completely horrible and unmannered. (P.S.: I got the rankings from this football league here: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/tables?league=ita.1&cc=3888)

(2 years ago)  #244 hunterkiller

it certainly did not cross my mind that ff because you can't qualify is totally unmannered. there should at least be a big sign board saying that "ff unless for Real Life reasons is not allowed." this is not something which is inherently dictated by one's conscience. i used to play magic: the gathering, the card game, and ff from tournaments are common on the reason that they can no longer reach the required points. culture differences perhaps. anyhow, i still believe that even if a team committed the said act and is granted to be unmannered, any penalty to the same should not be applied now since the teams had no idea of the prohibition. if it were to be otherwise, then it is simply unjust. Last edited by hunterkiller at 03.05.2007, 15:59

(2 years ago)  #245 MYM|Army

We will add teamwarnings and bans for unfair forfeits in the next tournament. Normally 2 forfeits should remove all your points in the tournament. It is very unfair towards the other teams which put in a lot of effort to win against the forfeiting team, just to have a disadvantage now with wasted time and a point reduction. About the "Nafu" case : They have not scheduled their matches in time and have received forfeits on the remaining matches. Since both wizz and Nafu have more than 2 forfeits, I have made it a 1:1. If the match was played or not - it does not matter. Even with the 2:0 re-awarded Nafu does not reach any tiebreaker stage. Last edited by Army at 03.05.2007, 16:59 pobudeczka na bacon i jajeczka

(2 years ago)  #246 dmZ-mad-

no comment* .. byebye dota As warder you're never gonna give up your team!

(2 years ago)  #247 zelibobrik

:( r u shure?