
Myth of the morning calm is a personal column, written by myMYM.com's guest writer
Richard 'evan_' Armstrong. The opinion of the author does not necessarily represent the opinion of myMYM.com.
South Korea is eSport utopia. The place is sacred, untouchable and an ever present reminder of what's on the horizon. Many have tried to explain why and how the Starcraft society came about, the recent suggestion that an economic recession was the catalyst was elaborate but spectacularly wrong. The idea that South Korea is the future and the West is dragging its knuckles along the floor is equally wrong.
What are the realities of a Starcraft society? Well as you can imagine, being gamers, these are never mentioned. It's always the glitz, glamour, skill, television channels and my god have you seen the salaries? They're huge I tell you huge!
There are three main reasons why gaming in South Korea hit the 'mainstream' and none of have anything to do with glitz, glamour or money. Korea's ethnically homogeneous people, urbanised population and mainstream electronic companies are the things responsible.
Seoul is South Korea, it's a multi-coloured kaleidoscope of incandescent lights, a city built to stimulate your mind, body and soul – 24/7 and at 100mb speed. In 2015, the population is supposedly going to stabilise and more than 90% of the country will be living in cities. 2008 was an “invisible but momentous milestone” according to the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) because for the first time in human history more than half the population of the world, some 3.3 billion people, live in urban areas.
More than three quarters of Korea's 49,232,844 people are already classed as urban and half live in the countries six largest cities. Korea has one of the highest population densities in the world and its cities make a 17th century slave ship look spacious.
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South Korea has had an explosive growth in the energy consumption over the last few years |
The countries energy consumption, as you can imagine, is ridiculous. Electricity consumption raised 14.83% to 368.6 billion kWh last year, the ninth largest in the world despite only having the 24th largest population. In the space of five years consumption has risen by nearly 100 billion kWh. Burning coal covered in oil and wrapped in a wooden box would be less wasteful than Korea.
There are upsides to city life however and according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), 34.12 million people use the internet. The country has the seventh largest number of internet users in the world but when the infrastructure and population is largely built around one city, Seoul, is it really surprising internet penetration is so high? Even condoms come equipped with wireless so you can, ironically enough, be told how to add inches and lose weight only minutes before you take the plunge into whichever Asian vixen you've intoxicated.
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There are a number of fallacies however, a lot of Western countries have similarly high levels of internet use despite appalling connection speeds and services in comparison. The United Kingdom actually has more PC's than South Korea and only trails by less than 1 million internet users despite the severe “digital divide” it suffers.
Unlike Western society there's no divide in Korea, its people are ethnically homogeneous with the exception of 20,000 Chinese - and after all, someone needs to do the dishes. When your entire population comes from one gene pool, the beliefs, culture, history and way of thinking are ultimately the same. When they all live so close together the 'problem' exasperates.
If you're a Warcraft III fan you've already seen this, South Korean players visit Europe and instinctively seek out Korean restaurants. It seems strange to us but they've no concept of choice, free will or variety. Personality, achievement and self worth is obtained through work and careers. Their culture is based on shame and bovine compliance.
So much so that Korea is the very model of contemporary consumer culture and if we already moan about the headlong rush of game designers prioritising graphics over everything else; DD syndrome – big tits and no brain, following South Korea or any modern Asian culture is like given Michael Jackson the keys to a nursery. It doesn't matter if the games picked are 'good' because the principles behind them are bad.
It makes you wonder though, if Starcraft has made it why no other games? Why unlike the European or North American markets does Korea only have one eSport game. Why is there no variety or choice? Now you can begin to see the cracks in Korean culture and its people. Europe has struggled to get to the same sort of level because we're too used to choice. If you don't like Counter Strike 1.6, then you can happily play and realistically earn money through 'Source or Call of Duty 4. Anything which isn't Starcraft inevitably suffers, but because they put all their eggs in one basket they 'made it'.
The accessibility of Starcraft works both for and against gaming in general. You'd be naive to believe that the prospect of mainstream adulation has no influence on the levels of youth unemployment for example. Since 2002, the unemployment rate of people aged 15-24 has increased year on year to 10.2%. The rate for men is even higher according to the United Nations Statistics Division, with 12.3% unemployed – that's one in eight. This doesn't compare favorably to other modernised societies like the United Kingdom which has rates of 7.8% and 9.3% respectively.

Nightview over a busy Seoul. Is South Korea a rolemodel for eSports or a society that has gone too far?
The gamers themselves are hard working chaps though, slaving in front of a hot... computer for 13-14 hours a day for a career with the life expectancy similar to an African infant. Most people can realistically play games for 15 hours a day, but the lure of money, lack of social stigma and common sense offered by Korea's mainstream society, lead Koreans down increasingly introvert and myopic lives in search of 'their' dream and partly to justify the madness.
Unsurprisingly, Koreans have one of the lowest life expectancy rates in the modernised world, even Bosnia and Herzegovina beats them by ten ranks! One of the common practices of Asian business is to hire excessively to cover unemployment, low wages and menial irrelevant work come as standard. Yet the collective success of something abstract hides the lack of individual suffering. Business booms.
Samsung is the richest company in South Korea and Forbes rank the public company as the 59th most profitable in the world. Samsung in case you don't know, produce a variety of electronics, they're also the main World Cyber Games (WCG) sponsor. Their position as a relatively mainstream consumer focused company, backed by their huge finical clout, puts gaming at a significant advantage, development wise. At the same time it actually works against more established markets like Europe and North America.
The richest company in the world is HSBC, a British bank. Until banks, oil and gas companies find a way to exploit the eSports market then we'll fail to find the same sort of 'success' as Korea. Until then the West will have to compete with traditional sports like football for advertising budgets, somewhat unfairly, based on raw numbers.
South Korea is the most overworked, socially retarded country - Japan might challenge, in the world and the idea that we're actually looking at them with anything other than a smirk is mind numbing. If you're still in any doubt or just don't want to believe me, how about the Samsung Economic Research Institute (SERI)? They admit that there are only 300 registered professional gamers in South Korea and that “the Korean economy is facing a serious dilemma as it continues to slow along with surging inflation”. Either I'm being overly negative or we're placing way too much trust on 300 gamers.
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nice article!
Better light a candle than curse the darkness!
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I dont know that much about the Korean life. I only know that there are the best SC pla
But it seems that the korean life gets far too much infected by this gaming and people get too addicted. I guess they know in Korea, about what is happening there. Thats is why they do not change it to have a better control over the people... Last edited by matthe at 06.08.2008, 14:08
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well effects of sc are irrelevant as in korea sc isnt a game preventing children from choosing education+regular job because sc in korea is a national sport, pretty much like saying basketball has stolen thousands of young lives hoping to earn money by playing in nba.
problem with starcraft is that it offers too much freedom to the pla in sports you have a coach from your first amateur steps, trainings are under control, even food you eat, etc. whereas in esports there is no limit, your body can stand 15+ hours of constant playing, you dont have to pay attention at what you eat, you can have iq10 and 200kg and still kickass in a PC game. but at the same time dont be fooled by sports being healthy - there is NO professional sport that is good for your body, try comparing injuries and deaths in sports and esports...both have their good and bad sides - not to mention that in majority of sports you dont earn much (if any) money unless you are among the very best in the world, in that aspect sc is the only PC game which comes close to being comparable with genuine sports because the work needed to become top class is just... it takes years and years of training, simply because of that missing piece called limits to human creativity - there is no upkeep to trample you, no boring animations obstructing your micro, no strict rules preventing you from using exact units you want to use, no "best strategy to do" nor weapon or unit to choose, there is no limit to your physical capabilities - if you can do 30things at same time - sc will give that to you. because of that over the last 10years sc has evolved countless times and it still does, people obviusly like the challenge it represents, along with glory/money/reputation. if it was just about earning money by playing pc games then koreans would choose wc3/cs/cod/etc. and by investing half of the time they put in sc they'd earn more money there as those games are popular on global level and money spins around them. when i look at SC and other pc games it is identical as comparing chess and all the other board games, not in the sense that it relies on strategical thinking more than other games but in sense of amount of skill needed to be good at it. it is a double-edged blade, due to its superiority it is the most popular esport game in korea,yet at the same time it represents an unpassable barrier for majority of young lives as they'll simply never ever be good enough to earn money by playing sc,thus ending their lives in misery - if you look at many best sportsmen then you'll notice most of them had a hard time and barely made for living until they became champions or whatever - nobody said its easy, in the end it's your choice as you do have your own will and a functional brain, sc or any other game isnt to be blamed for increasing unemployment in korea - humans are to be blamed (same as the logic of "guns dont kill people, people kill people" - or was it bullets? hmm...) -last note, in sports many people use steroids and any possible form of cheating in order to boost their performance, but sports have evolved so much that people are aware of that and fight against it - yet even in something which has been a part of our culture since ancient greece people still cheat and push their bodies beyond all limits - what this means is that basically we cant expect esports to be so evolved to prevent kids from "overplaying", we are at the beginning of a new era, it will take decades for people to establish some control over esports same as it will take decades for people to understand that esports (like sports) arent about cool graphics (made entirely to promote new hardware and attract kids) and having fun - it's about competition, fun comes along with it, not vice versa. Last edited by Dendra at 06.08.2008, 14:20
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Just one question; have you ever been to Korea evan?
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You missed out one big point; why are Koreans so supportive of PC Gaming instead of other platforms. Anyways, I don't get the general gist of your article. Are you trying to explain why Starcraft (or gaming in general) is so huge in Korea?
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................I dont agree with anything written here at all. Guh i could write a full article on how this is all flawed. Just read it again, and its just offensive off the cuff dribble.
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Yeah the article is riddled with them, the whole tone of this piece is just offensive. You don't seem to understand why SC became a Korean brand in the first place. You say "13-14 hours a day for a career with the life expectancy similar to an African infant" as if this career length is somehow smaller than any other progamer. God i cant read this any more im going to stab myself in the eyes
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In my country, when it comes to esport, most of the people would thinking of people who are spending a lot of time just sitting infront of pc. They would said that those people are no life or whatever and would never li
http://xeelcortino.blogspot.com <<Please Kindly Comment
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Bla-bla-bla, so many words, why is everyone trying to find some reason and explain all bad things? Live your life and do what you think is right.
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You just conclude that "we are finding some reason to explain all bad things". You said that just because you think it that way, but what about the others opinion? It's not that everyone is standing on your side.
Do only "what you think is right" not really a healthy way of life. Sometimes, you do need some advices from people. http://xeelcortino.blogspot.com <<Please Kindly Comment
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Even if you rename South Korea as UK, things would go the same way or you'll just end up like Malawi with a $600 GDP. Each and everyone of us has to make a living within our capabilities regardless of any consequences, as long as we could inhale oxygen, it just happens that they don't have various and abundant resources in their 99,314 Square kilometer island. Period!
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What was the point your trying to make in this article? Your opinions just jump around from each paragraph with narrow minded views. Dont Hate - Participate
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looking forward to be there.... miss Seoul !!!!
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looooool _evan XD
Lawrence "Malystryx" Phillips
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messed up article, doesnt the editor do any work? sifting through articles that are submitted to make sure such articles dont make it to the press? or is there a lack of choice that prevents the editor for the site to reject any submissions?
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omg your article is like shit...what is this? a joke?
eSports is a young sport....look at soccer how long it took until people could live from playing soccer...and look were eSports is now, already (compare too other sports in this limited timeline) and is soccer any better??? kids learn from playing games how computer work and maybe someday work for blizzard or whatever software company (i am gamer...oh and imagine...i have a job...) your article is ONLY negative and somehow ******* stupid =/ and wtf is this??? " South Korea is the most overworked, socially retarded country" for crying out loud...you are retarded | |
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I thought this was pretty well done, but I'm not sure I understand the point you're trying to make. That E-Sports is a negative aspect of society? Korea isn't a country to be modeled after?
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I am APPALLED that this site would post such an inane collection of opinions and unrelated statistics and hilariously ignorant statements. Its too bad the US doesn't reach the same conclusions correlating unemployment levels, life expectancy, and population densities with starcraft, backwards culture and everyone decending from one gene pool. After all, everyone knows that genetics determine beliefs, culture, way of thinking, and desirability of the aforementioned intoxicated asian vixen. And america will NEVER be as successful as korea because we only have football!!!!!!
Fumbling through the convoluted arguments, nonsensical transition statements, and blatant racism, it becomes painfully obvious that the author has never been to korea (which he has confirmed), and doesn't understand a thing about how the world works. This article should be burned, after mymym removes it and never ask this guest writer back. What a joke. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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This article looks like a bunch of facts piled one upon another with no real connection among the paragraphs. Plus those racist jokes are not something I'd recommend you to do on this site, as MANY Chinese visit this site, I daresay.
Also, many of the established proffesional gamers that have been playing for a while now (moon, grubby, remind, most likely quite some of the Starcraft pla <Xeqn> someone translated your warding guide to Chinese
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You have never been in South-Korea, so writing a statistical article is pointless. You have to experience the cultures first before writing this type of articles. Otherwise it will only fall down into erroneous knowledge.
"South Korea is the most overworked, socially retarded country - Japan might challenge.." This is an alarming sentence. Again, if you haven't experienced the cultures, DON'T STATE anything like this. People will only laugh at you, because that sentence show them that you have never been in those countries, so you are lacking of very necessary knowledge. Not to mention that you are quite socially retarded. :D You didn't even talk to Malystryx @ CGS combine, at least what he told to me. :( Every country has their own little things, where the citizens are interested in. Japaneses have electronical stuff, Americans football, Finns sauna & beer.. and Korea Starcraft. btw, fix this automatical refresh ffs :D had to write this comment again :( Last edited by drinn at 07.08.2008, 00:07
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I was going to vote for mymym.com as best esport coverage site, but I won't do it anymore after reading this article...
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Those 300 pro-gamers and the eSport extravagant in South Korea are big contributors in their successful economy. This isn't just a cyber but a culture yet a business at the same time. It generate sales, promotion, network, market, media, international exposure, tourism, and profitable deals world wide.
Japan - 3rd best largest economy all over the world South Korea - 14th best largest economy all over the world They're not socially-retarded.. Have you ever tried to have a sex with a Japanese or a Korean? I suggest you give it a try, I'm sure you'll regret all the blasphemous opinions you have in mind. XDD If you can't stand for something, you'll fall for everything
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Worst... article... ever...
It's chockful of racism, generalization, biased 'facts' and an overly simplified view of the subject. Racism: "computer for 13-14 hours a day for a career with the life expectancy similar to an African infant." "South Korea is the most overworked, socially retarded country" "It seems strange to us but they've no concept of choice, free will or variety." "DD syndrome – big tits and no brain, following South Korea or any modern Asian culture is like given Michael Jackson the keys to a nursery." And I'm sad to say there's more racism, too much to quote anyway. Generalization: "When your entire population comes from one gene pool, the beliefs, culture, history and way of thinking are ultimately the same." "If you're a Warcraft III fan you've already seen this, South Korean pla "Most people can realistically play games for 15 hours a day, but the lure of money, lack of social stigma and common sense offered by Korea's mainstream society, lead Koreans down increasingly introvert and myopic lives in search of 'their' dream and partly to justify the madness." Biased 'facts', there's loads, won't name most of them: "The United Kingdom actually has more PC's than South Korea" Obviously, because UK has 10 million more people. "Unlike Western society there's no divide in Korea, its people are ethnically homogeneous with the exception of 20,000 Chinese" There's 1 million foreigners in S. Korea (excluding N. Koreans). Secondly one can argue whether there's no divide in S. Korea as dividing people isn't solely ba "Why unlike the European or North American markets does Korea only have one eSport game." Warcraft 3, WoW, CS, etc. While they may not be as big as Starcraft, they surely have a seat in S. Korea. "The accessibility of Starcraft works both for and against gaming in general. You'd be naive to believe that the prospect of mainstream adulation has no influence on the levels of youth unemployment for example. Since 2002, the unemployment rate of people aged 15-24 has increased year on year to 10.2%. The rate for men is even higher according to the United Nations Statistics Division, with 12.3% unemployed – that's one in eight. This doesn't compare favorably to other modernised societies like the United Kingdom which has rates of 7.8% and 9.3% respectively." Oooook.... the Netherlands has about 4.0% unemployment rate, while there's a higher percentage of gamers than in the UK. Good job researching the entire picture. The unemployment rate in S. Korea isn't to blame on gaming, even if there is, which I doubt, it's only a very small part in loads of other factors. Don't forget there's also jobs being created due to gaming. Simplified, picked only a few out of many: "Korea's ethnically homogeneous people, urbanised population and mainstream electronic companies are the things responsible." "When your entire population comes from one gene pool, the beliefs, culture, history and way of thinking are ultimately the same. When they all live so close together the 'problem' exasperates." "It seems strange to us but they've no concept of choice, free will or variety. Personality, achievement and self worth is obtained through work and careers. Their culture is ba What the hell were you thinking? The entire article is full of rubbish actually, now that I've read over it 4 times. Not to mention the contradictions in it. Last edited by Shival at 07.08.2008, 03:20
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This is an opinion piece. He has his opinion, he has put the evidence he believes is relevant and backs his arguments. Don't ask to have it taken down because you find it 'offensive' or anything, if you believe that this article is terrible then go write one that you believe is better and has better arguments.
I have to agree with Wind's posts though (#6), I don't quite understand your arguments but you seem to have put a lot of effort in, so good work for that :D <VisarkA> one night ended with me sleeping in jolies bed
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My analysis then summary of the article:
- Korea is electronically inclined as a whole, which is wrong and shouldn't be admired by Western countries. - StarCraft is grandeur in Korea. - Population in urban is enormous. - Electricity consumption is vastly emphasized. - Korea uses internet excessively. - Korea's culture is self-centered. - Korea has wrong principles and bad examples. - Western countries are versatile unlike Korea. - Korea's love for StarCraft caused the high rate of unemployment. - Korean's are madly in love with StarCraft for blunt and blind reasons. - Korean's life expectancy is near the poorest. - Asian companies are good in covering the reality of problems. - Samsung (Korean company) is starting to expand their markets at Europe and North America. - HSBC (British company) and other big western companies wouldn't mind eSport because of the traditional sports. - Korea is socially retarded for investing too much on the so called culture "eSport" The major content of the article is aptly to show extreme repugnance about Koreans which is clearly a racial discrimination. Now, evan_'s what do you think your article achieved? Last edited by IamLurker at 07.08.2008, 10:38
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Jesus Christ Evan_ Great read! Kept me laughing a bit with the me
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Interesting article, however I'd like to read additional article written from different point of view, i.e. gamer, who stayed and played in Korea. You can get addicted to anything and it's always something wrong. Their lifest
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Why does everybody judge his article as well researched? Throwing around some numbers automatically makes an article seem much “smarter”, but is it really?
Let go through with it: Energy Consumption: “Burning coal covered in oil and wrapped in a wooden box would be less wasteful than Korea.“ South Korea actually has a lower per capita energy consumption than the U.S., most scandinavian countries (Sweden, Norway, Finland), Netherlands, Australia, Louxembourg and some other european countries. Even the UK only consumes about 9% less than S.K. Not mentioning all the Arabian or oil producing countries, who have a up to 5 times higher consumption (Qatar anyone?). Foreign population in S.K. Has been mentionend before, its over 1 million, not only the mentioned 20.000 dishwashing chinese. Unemployment Rate: Let not only see male 15-24 but show the whole picture, shall we? South Korea – 3.5 % United Kingdom – 5.4% Errrm, so that’s why S.K. faces economical problems, which the UK as a “modernised society” is not having? Life Expectancy at birth: Ah, my favourite one: South Korea – 77.42 United Kingdom – 78.85 Bosnia & Herzegovina – 78.33 European Union Average – 78.51 World – 66.12 South Korea is actually 11 ranks below Bosnia and Herzegovina, but its still a very good number, isn’t it? “Richest” company in the world: Revenuewise: #1 Exxon Mobil #2 Walmart #3 Royal Dutch Shell … #26 HSBC Market Capitalization: #1 Exxon Mobil #2 Petrochina #3 Gazprom .. #33 HSBC Apart from that? Why mention? This has really nothing to do with the article! Macroeconomics: “the Korean economy is facing a serious dilemma as it continues to slow along with surging inflation” So this is different for which country? The U.S. most European and asian countries are facing those problems right now. Don’t see the point!? Especially with inflation being an importated inflation because of increases in commodity and oil prices. So all that is left, after realizing not even your “oh so well researched” facts were correct, is a racist, polemic article, that uses the power of numbers to appear intelligent. I have to admit your use of the language is good. But that remains the only positive thing about that. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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don't idealize anything, in football too, many are called, few are chosen in decent clubs... most of them are forced to find a real job at 25 after gaving up their studies..
and how many people who made decent studies get fired due to some weird corporate restructuration.. and how many intelligent people failed at their exam because of the luck factor missing and/or the insane numerus clausus like the 4% in my domain. everything is fuked up.. Last edited by Celestium at 07.08.2008, 14:05
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Freedom of speech guys :D
Does anyone remember this Mohammed "pictures", which were made 1 year ago and some people were angry about it and the media pushed the whole story up? and: Quoting Winston Churchill: Not swearing on internet? It's against my religion.
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I know its almost blasphemy, but can you reference your statistics please?
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As mymym I'd edit these three parts:
"with the exception of 20,000 Chinese - and after all, someone needs to do the dishes." This is obviously racist, whether it wants to be or not. Moreover, seeing as mYm is trying to break through in the Chinese market, it is also extremely stupid from a business stand-point . "[...] for a career with the life expectancy similar to an African infant." This clause, perhaps again, inadvertently mocks/makes fun of the horrible, horrible situation of many African children. I'm not normally the sensitive type, but in a supposedly serious essay published to a large reader ba "South Korea is the most overworked, socially retarded country" Are you kidding me? Such a statement doesn't belong anywhere. Sure, social isolation, akwardness or whatever might be a problem, but then you should state it more subjectively and back up with facts and sources; as it is written now, it's simply hurtful and gives the readers serious doubts about the integrity of the writer. ...speaking or sources - where are the references at the end? Posting an article like this in its current form is extremely unprofessional. If I was the owner of this site (waiting for reply containing "well you aren't buhu!") then I'd really reconsider if this is a clever move. I do, however, respect the fact that mymym wants to post more serious essays/articles. On another note, I think the article hits a very important nerve when it says that there are only relatively few professional gamers. Even though people like Dendra would like to believe that starcraft is South Korea's national sport, it's very clearly isn't. In an article by Rekrul on teamliquid.net, he said that his manager used to compare starcraft in Korea to wrestling in the US - i.e. its a niche sport. Last edited by toCuws at 07.08.2008, 19:43
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Wow, I'm astonished!!, not so long ago I turned on my pc, and before entering any of the EGames I play, I checked the news on this website (something I do every day, since mymym.com has been my favorite for a long time already) and when I first read the ti
“It seems strange to us but they've no concept of choice, free will or variety.” "South Korea is the most overworked, socially retarded country" "DD syndrome – big tits and no brain, following South Korea or any modern Asian culture is like given Michael Jackson the keys to a nursery." ??? A person needs to be real nuts (or extremely biased declaring him/herself as an Evan huge blinded fan) to defend those statements as NON discriminative ones, or saying that the paper is well researched and not biased just because the facts are real facts but not necessarily complete, as it ONLY tells one part/side of the truth about those facts, for instance I can quote: "computer for 13-14 hours a day for a career with the life expectancy similar to an African infant." So yes, Korea does have a low life expectancy compared to other modern countries, but, what does SC has to do with that?? I mean, I KNOW that sitting in front of a PC for 13-14 hours a day isn’t the healthiest thing to do, but my point here is, did Evan researched on Korea’s life expectancy before SC came?, or what the reasons for their low life expectancy were before SC came, so he could TRY to analize and balance those reasons and the impact of SC, to see HOW MUCH SC has really affected their culture in that matter, THAT for ME doesn’t seem to be well researched. At least anyone who has a little piece of common sense would have done that before posting such discriminatory/racist “facts”/opinions on the frontpage of a very well known, respected and visited website, and if the author lacked that NORMAL COMMON sense, then the editors should do it. So there again, I’m really disappointed with this website, and I’m pretty sure there are lots of people who feel the same way I do, since I am NOT a SC fan (I’ve tried that game ONCE and didn’t really like it, I’m more of a WC/CS 1.6/WoW/etc etc lover), plus I’m a Peruvian who lives in Peru, I have never been to any Asian country, and am not related in any way to Asian people, so this isn’t personal, I just think it’s pretty offensive and of a BAD taste to have it posted on the frontpage, I wonder what Moon, Luci, Susi and other progamers think about that article and the statements I quoted!!, I’m blown away!! Edited: I forgot to mention about this statement: "If you're still in any doubt or just don't want to believe me, how about the Samsung Economic Research Institute (SERI)? They admit that there are only 300 registered professional gamers in South Korea" So the question here is: Does Evan have an IDEA of what it means to be considered a Professional Gamer in Korea?? did he bother to do some "research" about what's a ProGamer over there? or he just doesn't follow the Korean progaming scene??, as a quick example, Susiria wasn't considered as a progamer in his country, due to the fact that he didn't win any tournaments, of course, this has to do with the incredibly high competitive level of gaming over there, and this applys for pla Last edited by Antidoto at 07.08.2008, 20:42
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"computer for 13-14 hours a day for a career with the life expectancy similar to an African infant."
Refers to the length of the progamer's career not his life. For some reason a lot of people seem to misinterpret this. | |
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Quoting mighty_honour_korea: - Source: CIA World Factbook - Unless otherwise noted, information in this page is accurate as of January 1, 2008 - No, I'm singling Korea out because the article is about Korea. - You make me laugh, you bother me while I'm watching Big Brother then say you won't reply and don't care - yet you reply! Your criticism is ironic for a number of reasons, your own research was equally as biased and selective, your entire article was a shoddy attempt to rewrite someone else's opinion. But you know what? I don't care what you think and I'm not going to reply, oh wait... | |
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You're right, I was looking at a page of results mixed from a range of different years, regardless, utilizing those results "Koreans have one of the lowest life expectancy rates in the modernised world" is still a complete and utter fallacy.
South Korea is all of one year behind the likes of Ireland, UK, EU, Denmark, Portugal and Finland yet according to you they're just as liable to croak as someone from Zimbabwe, which scores a 39 compared to South Korea's 77. "No, I'm singling Korea out because the article is about Korea." No, you're looking at facts applicable to most other countries in Asia, Europe and America and applying them directly and solely to South Korea, claiming them to be differences between them and us, a few examples. South Korea having Samsung, one of the most successful technology oriented companies in the world, gives South Korea a foot up that we won't get unless our biggest corporate giants, energy companies, step into the e-sports arena. Forbes 500 list; #55 Microsoft - United States #61 Siemens Group - Germany #67 Hewlett-Packard - United States #74 Intel - United States #117 Cisco Systems - United States #124 Motorola - United States #142 Nokia - Finland #147 Dell - United States I can go on and that's not even counting the likes of Pepsi-Co, Coca Cola, MTV or any other companies interested in tapping our market. So if we were able to mimic South Korea's success with an equally powerful tech company, why haven't we been successful with a far larger amount of top 200 tech companies? "A downturn in consumer spending was offset by rapid export growth. Moderate inflation, low unemployment, and an export surplus in 2007 characterize this solid economy, but inflation and unemployment are increasing in the face of rising oil prices." - CIA Fact book CIA says solid Economy, Evan says "serious dilema" Increasing food and energy prices are hitting every country just as hard. Remind me again how you're explaining the differences between ourselves and Korea by running off a list of facts applicable to most of our own countries? People are continuing to flock to cities the world over, in huge numbers, but apparantly only South Korea's rise in energy consumption warrants a mention. Michael Moore does less cherry picking than you do. I didn't say anything about not replying... I was suggesting you yourself don't reply, pay attention. I spent a huge amount of time pouring over research information before even touching pen to paper, those were my opinions molded around mostly existing evidence, uncovered by people with the funds to actually visit South Korea, as I myself can not. Kind of the same way you more or less just tore apart certain websites and compiled what is essentially a list of random statistics sporadically pieced together in desperation. The only difference is mine was coherent and plausible. Do what you usually do, write an article about how biased the awards are instead of swinging your green handbag at me. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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bleh i feel so sad seeing such a nice discussion which sadly spins around statistics, that basically kills my will to write as i find it utterly boring - on the other hand if any of you wishes to challenge sc's superiority in esports do so and i'll be more than happy to start a debate on as to why is sc on a different level :)
If force won't work, use greater force.
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lol. too many people just read the statistics, and not read the small fonts on the statistics sheets.
So in the end, biased statistics turn into biased statements, which attract biased attention. Awesome. honestly, statistics are nothing if you can't interpret them properly, and most journalists do FAIL at that. Copy and pasting numbers that you find on forbes/bloomberg/reuters dont mean squad if you can't find the relationships between them. I just hope in UK, they teach/offer statistic courses in a Journalism program. Last edited by yukson_Joo at 11.08.2008, 21:03
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the article and the comments on it are killing my eyes -_-v lol j.k but it's insanely long :| Fear is not what I'll get. It is what I've created myself
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Oh,
what do you know Koreans have 12 medals so far, including 5 gold and in 3rd place overall. I had to ctrl+F to find Great Britain | |
eSports is still terribly young and 'nubile'. Even in South Korea. =)
Many people still perceive it as an instant route to stardom (akin to starlets flocking to Hollywood in its heydays) especially with its relatively low barriers of entry. So while some of these pointers may be relevant and reflective of the eSports culture in South Korea today, I do believe that eSports (worldwide) is heading for a luminous future. All of us here can make that happen! the world is my playground...
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what a load of random shit
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