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09th April 2008, 13:00

Tactics talk

 

The WC3 community in general has a distaste for strategies that use macro to your advantage such as players like yourself and InFi use of towers, and strategies that Grubby has used recently like hit and runs with Raiders. Do you feel personally that strategies like this take less skill or are just different than traditional 50 v 50 or 80 v 80 battles?

I think they are different but they still take skill. There's a lot of timing and thought that goes into my strategies. If I make one mistake anywhere, everything can be blown in a second. What bugs me is how if I win a game by tanking or playing a tower push - it's viewed as cheap. But if I play against a warden user who does nothing but abuse shadow strike it's “OH MY GOD HES SO GOOD HE'S A KOREAN ELF!”

Grubby Goes For Yaws' Main

Grubby uses his raiders to kill Yaws Main.


Or Satiini?

True that. Another thing I view as cheap is when you just have a Blademaster or Demon Hunter with boots, chasing your hero across the map - it's so frustrating because the only thing you can do is run, especially on Echo Isles =(


In a nutshell, describe a perfect Hu v Orc T2 Sky push

Hrmmmm my dream... I suppose it would be getting a quick tech off, hitting level 3, grabbing some mercs, kicking some T2 buildings, and not losing a single foot. It really is such a moral victory when you don't lose footmen - they are such crappy units and just get picked off constantly.

Okay. The patch. The changes, were they good?

No - the Nerf to towers kills human. How can you beat Elves and Undead now? Also how will the Sky push be affected? You have to at least buff rifles or breakers before you can nerf towers. The staff nerf wasn't good, now it's impossible for me to pass my staff around. There should have just been a nerf to the elf staff cool down. Warden was left untouched, panda was left untouched, and knights got a small buff but not enough to matter.

Sonkie Towers Who

Sonkie sky pushing Who in WC3L week 1

 

Are you upset that DH and BM were completely untouched?

YES! Blade at level 1 could use a -1 armor nerf, and DH needs a mana burn nerf as well as a slight agility nerf. Buff paladin =D

Pre-patch a lot of the community seems to think the hierarchy is NE Hu Orc UD. How do you personally see it, outside of the obvious Orc > UD, UD > Hu, NE > Orc at a higher percentage, and what do you think will happen to these and other match-ups after the patch goes live?

There really is no hierarchy of races, just a hierarchy of pro players. There are of course the obvious imbalances of race match-ups on certain maps but aside from that it's all skill and micro. I can't say about the other match-ups, it's a bit too early. I can say that I fear for Human with the tower nerfs.

Do you want to thank anyone before we go?

Just want to thank my team SRS for supporting me and giving me motivation to continue practicing, and Frank for interviewing me!

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(last year)  #1 mysassyelf
mysassyelf
wow buff human and nerf other races?

sounds fair to me. Not.

friends may come and go, enemies accumulate... gg
(last year)  #9 Dragonite
 
Quoting mysassyelf:

wow buff human and nerf other races?

sounds fair to me. Not.


qft

like surely, t3 human is not powerful at all.

/sarcasm

and maybe hus should stop doing am rifles/casters or breakers/casters EVERY game and then cry less about elf.

oh, ps: let's buff paladin plz to make hu vs ud even more painful for the ud! thx! i mean, it's not like pala is such a fucking pain vs ud already, right?
Last edited by Dragonite at 09.04.2008, 12:31

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9mVkhCCOgI LOLOLOLOLOL
(last year)  #13 mysassyelf
mysassyelf
what does qft mean sir?
friends may come and go, enemies accumulate... gg
(last year)  #14 Cranky_Gnome
 
quoted for truth :P
(last year)  #2 Zantim
 
Really, if you think about it towers are pretty much everything that Humans have. They have weak ground. Rifles aren't very good either.
(last year)  #3 noobtastic
 
whine more... what an ironic dude... i mean... towers/tanks........
(last year)  #4 Meibas
Meibas
it's not whine it's the real true act.I am not human i was human ect but from what i can see everything that human do can be stopped.It's all about strategy and i think i am not the only way who think the new patch will be the worst one ever.
(last year)  #5 losemann
losemann
imo the first thing that should be changed is the matchup Orc vs undead. Since UD has a really hard time. But i have to admit that yesterday Soju vs ToD was kinda imba. Warden lvl 3 chasing the AM lvl 3 and just left click on it and shadowstrike it. That looked a bit too imba. But if u change a bit in the left side the wage is having problems in the right side.

So its really hard to change anything

[www.losemann.asia] - my blog
(last year)  #6 vTMirhi
Mirhi
I really think, if riflemen were buffed, Humans would not need towers anymore. The problem is that they have no real anti-dryad or anti-destroyer unit. Towers cover both of those.
(last year)  #7 murd3r3r
murd3r3r
This comment has been deactivated by the admin crew due to its content.
(last year)  #8 Ferocious
 
#6 You sir, except for the part of Destroyers, have no clue about the game.
Last edited by Ferocious at 09.04.2008, 10:25
(last year)  #10 Meibas
Meibas
it's obvious that u dont have too.Tell me counter vs dests when u go fe? other then towers? u have t2 ready ud t3.

gg? hell yeah.
(last year)  #11 4KFStenGah
StenGah
towers talk
(last year)  #12 Wee-
Wee-
Towers FTW
(last year)  #15 Ferocious
 
#10 read plz. I said that i agree about destros. Sry but that human has no counter to dryad, thats a really noobish statement.

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